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michaelantoi 08-31-2007 04:01 AM

NL100 - AJ hand
 

Seat 1: <font color="#000000">UTG</font> ($82,35)
Seat 3: <font color="#990000">Hero</font> ($98,50)
Seat 5: <font color="#000000">BTN</font> ($99,50)
Seat 6: <font color="#000000">SB</font> ($108,40)
Seat 8: <font color="#000000">BB</font> ($61,50)

<font color="#000000">SB</font> posts small blind of $0,50
<font color="#000000">BB</font> posts big blind of $1,00

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

<font color="#000000">UTG</font> calls $1,00
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $5,00
<font color="#000000">BTN</font> folds
<font color="#000000">SB</font> calls $4,50
<font color="#000000">BB</font> folds
<font color="#000000">UTG</font> calls $4,00


Dealing flop 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Pot is: $16,00

<font color="#000000">SB</font> bets $2,00
<font color="#000000">UTG</font> calls $2,00
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $12,00
<font color="#000000">SB</font> folds
<font color="#000000">UTG</font> calls $10,00


Dealing turn 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Pot is: $42,00

<font color="#000000">UTG</font> checks
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> bets $30,00
<font color="#000000">UTG</font> raises to $60,00

Hero??

Villain is 27/14/2

Scaramouche 08-31-2007 04:26 AM

Re: NL100 - AJ hand
 
I think this is a monster very often. Fold.

auto111032 08-31-2007 04:45 AM

Re: NL100 - AJ hand
 
This is often A2 and sometimes 66-88, flushdraws and overpairs. Your betsizing made this hand much more difficult than it should have been. I think you're behind but but priced in to call. Hope he doesn't bet his last
$ on the river.

infinite_loop 08-31-2007 04:46 AM

Re: NL100 - AJ hand
 
Flop call:

Hard to put him on 2x.
Easy to put him on a lot of pocket pairs.
Somewhat easy to put him on JT/QJ/KJ.

This is a spot where I often check the turn because I think you fold out a lot of hands with a 2nd barrel and you're really not trying to protect your hand at all given the board. A check on the turn and river value bet will get a lot of the hands that call the flop to call another bet that would otherwise fold to a 2nd barrel. And really the key is that this board is beautiful for you.

Given that fact, the check min-raise is pretty scary here. It looks odd because his probable range is so narrow. 66/22 with obvious weight on 66. I fold this unless there are image issues or patterns we should know about.

Bulletproof Monk 08-31-2007 05:00 AM

Re: NL100 - AJ hand
 
guys he cant have a 2 here.... 27/14/2s dont call a $5 raise preflop and just call a flop with a flushdraw with a 2. he also isnt call/calling the flop with 66 ever.

honestly the only hand that beats us is a slowplayed QQ+ but its pretty damn unlikely. just get it in and love it

infinite_loop 08-31-2007 12:19 PM

Re: NL100 - AJ hand
 
I also think a 2 is pretty unlikely. After my previous reply I was thinking I should have added some slowplayed big pairs in there as well, which makes an even better case for a fold.

I just don't see how you can ever be happy here unless there are image concerns or patterns that would warrant the villain's play. The villain is vastly more likely to call down with hands we beat than call a small bet from one person, call a raise from another behind, and then check min-raise a relatively blank turn.

Womble 08-31-2007 12:55 PM

Re: NL100 - AJ hand
 
If your betting that turn you aint folding. If you want to fold you should check the turn

HoldEmNewby 08-31-2007 01:23 PM

Re: NL100 - AJ hand
 
check behind on the turn.

HoldEmNewby 08-31-2007 01:24 PM

Re: NL100 - AJ hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
If your betting that turn you aint folding. If you want to fold you should check the turn

[/ QUOTE ]

indeed


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