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TheDespot 02-27-2007 07:02 PM

Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
I've been noticing lately that often after I'm at a table for awhile, some players peg me as a mega c-bettor based on my play; this is a reputation that I may deserve somewhat but I do not merely bet at every flop where I'm in a raised pot. My question, then, is this: How do I exploit this? Obviously the answer would ring something like value bet the crap out of your good hands and slow down when you flop air, but I'm looking more for specifics. I'm even talking to the point where a player may go out of his way to call my preflop raise in hopes of just putting a play on me later on. For instance, a player will call my raise even with garbage, call my flop bet regardless of what comes out, and then raise my turn bet if I make one or bet if checked to. I feel like this may be a problem with image. Sure, there are those who will not like to play with me because they'll know they're going to have to pay, but then there are others like I previously described. Should I purposefully play tighter and show my cards and that I'm not playing air when my image becomes one of a c-bettor, only to switch gears later on afterwards?

Gelford 02-27-2007 07:08 PM

Re: Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
You increase your second barreling frequency ...

... unless we are talking calling stations, then you just refrain from bluffing and simply valuebet.

Colms 02-27-2007 07:11 PM

Re: Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
you can also check raise the turn when you know he is going to bet if you check to him.

RollTide77 02-27-2007 07:17 PM

Re: Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
I play at 10NL where you hardly ever get EVERYONE to fold to a CB in multiways. And by CB I mean a flat bluff, not a value bet. So what I do is usually only CB against one other player. But I do CB in multiways under certain circumstances but not that often. And if I've CB'd alot and won alot of hands I'll usually show one when its the real deal to show I'm not bluffing. This helps fight the problem you've described b/c you don't want folks playing back at you every hand.

gumpzilla 02-27-2007 07:17 PM

Re: Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
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you can also check raise the turn when you know he is going to bet if you check to him.

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Yeah, this is good. Don't overuse it.

Necromancer 02-27-2007 07:21 PM

Re: Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
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You increase your second barreling frequency ...

... unless we are talking calling stations, then you just refrain from bluffing and simply valuebet.

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Yup. I agree with this.

I think you gotta pick the right type of board to second barrel on. I havn't quite figured out the right kind of board to second barrel on yet, bland or drawy! A 1/2 psb on the turn will get many players to fold draws HU. A second barrel on blank turn after a Kxx rainbow flop will get out many weak second pairs.

Gelford 02-27-2007 07:28 PM

Re: Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
Also if you are loose, then you might want to tighten up. as you are obv getting action on your hands.

Necromancer 02-27-2007 07:40 PM

Re: Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
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I play at 10NL where you hardly ever get EVERYONE to fold to a CB in multiways.

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Good point. The number of people in the pot will affect

1. whether I will cont bet.
2. How likely I am to second barrel.

Gelford 02-27-2007 07:42 PM

Re: Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
Actually, if you never cbet in multiway pot at uNL, noone will notice and you winrate is not likely to suffer.

holyfield5 02-27-2007 07:45 PM

Re: Adjusting when they peg you as a c-bettor
 
check raise turn on floaters with overpair is a fast track to valuetown baby


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