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Tyrant-_-Lizard 10-14-2007 01:06 AM

UB weirdly rigged?
 
Over the last 35k-50k hands I can't remember having AA v KK or KK v AA preflop once. I've definitely been paying attention the last 20k hands, to the point where every time I'm dealt KK I root for someone else to have AA just so I can leave the twilight zone.

It also feels like there are way too many AA or KK v AK matchups. In one day alone (2-3k hands) I went to showdown with AK v AA three times, AK v KK twice, AA v AK once, and KK v AK twice.

In the same span of hands I've had QQ v AA and AA v QQ what seems like a normal rate.

This is mainly at 10 and 25nl. 10nl winrate =approximately 7.5ptbb/100 not counting 3-4ptbb/100 in rake over this span. 25nl winrate like .9 ptbb/100.

I'm a long time winner at 50nl with 300k+ hands at 3-5ptbb/100, but I refuse to play at bbj tables so I'm figuring out whether to move to PS or FT and grinding 10nl in the meantime.

Has anyone noticed the same thing or is this probably just a statistical blip?

Personally at this limit I'd be fine doing away with aavkk matchups because I really doubt my skill differential overcomes the huge rake.

LT22 10-14-2007 02:16 AM

Re: UB weirdly rigged?
 
[x] rigged

WordWhiz 10-14-2007 03:06 AM

Re: UB weirdly rigged?
 
Just got coolered with KK vs. AA preflop today at UB. Just variance.

RikaKazak 10-14-2007 03:16 AM

Re: UB weirdly rigged?
 
ban

jjberns 10-14-2007 06:18 AM

Re: UB weirdly rigged?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[x] rigged

[/ QUOTE ]

just another reason to avoid this site like the plague

Rek 10-14-2007 06:56 AM

Re: UB weirdly rigged?
 
I once had AQ beat by KJ. Definately rigged. That would never happen live.

SDone 10-14-2007 07:19 AM

Re: UB weirdly rigged?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I once had AQ beat by KJ. Definately rigged. That would never happen live.

[/ QUOTE ]

Did you report? You were against a super-super user, obv.

Tyrant-_-Lizard 10-15-2007 02:11 AM

Re: UB weirdly rigged?
 
I played about 3k hands today at 10nl. Did not see one AA v KK matchup. Saw two KK v AK.

I'm going to update this after each session I play until I see one. Seriously, what is the probability of playing 20k hands and not even SEEING an AA v KK matchup? 6 max.

MicroBob 10-15-2007 02:34 AM

Re: UB weirdly rigged?
 
sometimes when one of the players loses their cards get mucked at showdown and you might not see what they had.

You really think UB has somehow rigged their games to be so anti AA v KK for some strange reason?
Keep us updated. We need to get to the bottom of this terrible rigging they're doing to con all those NL10 players out of all their monieeezzzz!!!


as you can probably tell by the sarcasm in this thread, nobody thinks this is a situation at all. You probably just haven't noticed the AA vs. KK hands that flew right past you.

Tyrant-_-Lizard 10-15-2007 03:19 AM

Re: UB weirdly rigged?
 
It's definitely possible that I've missed hands that other people have played, I'm 5-7 tabling on UB. I have not missed hands that I have played, and I have both seen and been part of many AA v QQ, AA v AK, KK v AK and KK v QQ matchups over this span I am talking about.

I have played many hundreds of thousands of hands over the last 4 years at UB and never had any reason to think it was rigged. All of a sudden AA v KK matchups seem to have stopped at 10nl. I'm a whacko because I notice this? It's not like it hurts me; it probably helps me slightly, and I am on a massive heater over this span, winning 20/23 sessions and +40 buyins.

Now that I think about it, I don't normally play long sessions, so winning 20/23 must be extremely unlikely. At 50nl I win less than 60% of sessions. Maybe this AA v KK thing is just a freak occurence.

I will continue to update this until I see one.


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