Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

Comments on the entire hand are appreciated but mostly interested in my play on the river and MP c/r a super-loose passive 47/0/1/500.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($170.35)
SB ($135.05)
BB ($39)
Hero ($95)
MP ($125.30)
CO ($142.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, MP calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($11) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.75</font>, MP calls $5.75, BB calls $5.75.

Turn: ($28.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks.

River: ($28.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $39</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $116.05 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $46.75 (All-In).

Final Pot: $212.75

Re: Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

I dont get the turn check

I fold the river, the guy is loose passive and 3 betting AI a paired board. Your hand is no goot.

Re: Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

River call is $46 to win $212. MP might have Ax or a lower flush and you're getting great odds, call.

However, if you had bet the turn you would have gotten more value and protection vs Ax and you wouldn't have ended in this river spott.

Re: Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

bet the turn, as played, u get good odds to call, but oh well

Re: Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

bet the turn 100%.

obv call the river (as you did)

Re: Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

have to bet turn easy river call but u lost to a full house right?

Re: Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

i think your hand is rarely good in this spot

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i think your hand is rarely good in this spot

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Nobody's arguing with that. Luckily, it only has to be rarely good to make this a call.

Re: Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

def bet the turn.

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i think your hand is rarely good in this spot

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Nobody's arguing with that. Luckily, it only has to be rarely good to make this a call.

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whats the point in having a read if you arent going to use it? It doesnt matter if hes getting 5:1 on his money if he isnt winning 1 time in 6, its a bad call.

Re: Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

Preflop is really the only street I like in this hand, and even there I could express my dislike for the 3.5x raise people like to do, I like 3 or 4 but whatever that doesn't matter.

I would like to see a good sized bet on the flop, pretty much I think its best to continue here as though you have the nuts, so bet the same way you have AAA, much closer to pot size.

Again, now onthe turn, you pretty much have the nuts, as no one has shown too much interest, although the one in position is passive so he could have got there but I still like leading a good bet here onthe turn when you make your flush.

As played out, on the river and with that read, 500 hands on villian is substantial, and just by those three stats Imean this guy is passive calling station. You can't possibly call that all in, the price isn't right because he never has a worse hand imo. It just seems like this type of player needs a boat or better here, I would still probably call because its way too tempting, but in theory I think you can argue a fold.

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i think your hand is rarely good in this spot

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Nobody's arguing with that. Luckily, it only has to be rarely good to make this a call.

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whats the point in having a read if you arent going to use it? It doesnt matter if hes getting 5:1 on his money if he isnt winning 1 time in 6, its a bad call.

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I think that 1 in 6 times he could have a worse flush. It may very well be a fold though.

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i think your hand is rarely good in this spot

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Nobody's arguing with that. Luckily, it only has to be rarely good to make this a call.

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whats the point in having a read if you arent going to use it? It doesnt matter if hes getting 5:1 on his money if he isnt winning 1 time in 6, its a bad call.

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I think that 1 in 6 times he could have a worse flush. It may very well be a fold though.

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so 1 time in 6, a loose passive has at best the 3rd nut flush, that he was too scared to bet on the turn acting last, that he then decides is worth a 3 bet all in on the river?

Everyone whos calling this bet, please estimate for me the % chance you are winning....im curious how often you guys think we are good here

Re: Nut flush river bet NL 100
 

dude.... how can you not bet this turn?!!??!

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i think your hand is rarely good in this spot

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Nobody's arguing with that. Luckily, it only has to be rarely good to make this a call.

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whats the point in having a read if you arent going to use it? It doesnt matter if hes getting 5:1 on his money if he isnt winning 1 time in 6, its a bad call.

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I think that 1 in 6 times he could have a worse flush. It may very well be a fold though.

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so 1 time in 6, a loose passive has at best the 3rd nut flush, that he was too scared to bet on the turn acting last, that he then decides is worth a 3 bet all in on the river?

Everyone whos calling this bet, please estimate for me the % chance you are winning....im curious how often you guys think we are good here

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If he has a flush, he didn't check it back on the turn because he was scared. He did it because he's a donk. And tying into that, checking this turn is awful OP.