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seke2 09-07-2006 04:02 PM

$27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
Maybe this is straightforward. Is this a push since we're pretty short and our hand is solid and our table is tight, or does anyone lay this down due to our early position and the UTG minraise?

Reads:
In general, table has been very tight. At least 3 players are total rocks, and there have been a lot of "big laydowns" going on.

UTG won 1 huge pot earlier when he raised 4xBB and pushed over a minreraise with AK and sucked out against AA. He also showed down an A9s limp from EP, and raised and took down 1 pot uncontested preflop with a 4xBB raises in L2. Otherwise, he's hardly been in a pot at all except out of the blinds.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2365)
Hero (t1400)
MP1 (t875)
MP2 (t1115)
CO (t1210)
Button (t1100)
SB (t1735)
BB (t3700)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t300</font>, Hero???

tigerite 09-07-2006 04:06 PM

Re: $27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
Fold most of the time. I'd need a specific read to push here.

deagle185 09-07-2006 04:21 PM

Re: $27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
I am usually very selective with reraising. I would much prefer to open raise with junk than to reraise with medium pairs at this stage, especially if the table's been tight and passive (don't know how passive your table was tho). The minraise smells too. Fold this and wait for a spot where you can open raise for a steal.

seke2 09-07-2006 05:11 PM

Re: $27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
Bumping before I leave the office for the day.

Curious if anyone pushes this at all. Because, well, I did, and I thought it was a marginal but correct play. Seems like the limited responses so far disagree.

ryanghall 09-07-2006 05:14 PM

Re: $27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
I don't think I like this. I usually respect UTG raises a lot.

Ryan

Evenkeal 09-07-2006 05:17 PM

Re: $27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
You have good stack position (the gigabet water-dam position). I fold.

Mench 09-07-2006 06:55 PM

Re: $27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
I probably fold. Does having 99 TT JJ change anything really. I think I autopush QQ+. People play this similar?

LordTacohead 09-07-2006 07:04 PM

Re: $27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
I'd definitely push JJ, even with this read. We haven't seen how he plays medium pairs, so there's no reason to assume that he's got something big. There are few situations where I'm not delighted to get all my chips in with JJ with less than 10 BBs, and I don't think this is one of them. 99 I'd fold. TT I might flip a coin, because I think it's pretty close.

Mench 09-07-2006 07:06 PM

Re: $27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
Assuming TT is close, which I agree what does JJ change besides reducing the likelihood of him having JJ and helping our cause if he calls with AJ

Pudge714 09-07-2006 07:23 PM

Re: $27 Turbo: 88 on a 9xBB stack from EP
 
Read dependent. However I'm always pushing JJ+ her.e


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