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MyTurn2Raise 10-19-2007 04:51 PM

PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
Dear PokerStars,
with the recent Absolute scandals, it's clear that online poker has had its reputation take a hit. Unfortunately, one bad egg does reflect on the whole industry. However, Poker Stars has always stood out as being above the rest. Poker Stars can continue to maintain their lofty perch by allowing unfettered datamining. Only by observing the tables and hands, can players help the internet poker community out by noticing conspicuous activities.

In the last year, hand histories have been used to show the following:
-The whole absolute cheating and chipdumping of hundreds of thousands of dollars
-Bot-farms on Full Tilt
-Bots in the $22 SNGs on Party

Come on poker stars, open it up. Let us help you maintain your reputation.

Sincerely,
a concerned online player

freecard4all 10-19-2007 04:59 PM

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
HA HA.

Come on. This has nothing to do with the scandal. You only want an easy way how to collect data.

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The drug-free MVP

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are you sure?

HSB 10-19-2007 05:02 PM

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
[ QUOTE ]
Dear PokerStars,
with the recent Absolute scandals, it's clear that online poker has had its reputation take a hit. Unfortunately, one bad egg does reflect on the whole industry. However, Poker Stars has always stood out as being above the rest. Poker Stars can continue to maintain their lofty perch by allowing unfettered datamining. Only by observing the tables and hands, can players help the internet poker community out by noticing conspicuous activities.

In the last year, hand histories have been used to show the following:
-The whole absolute cheating and chipdumping of hundreds of thousands of dollars
-Bot-farms on Full Tilt
-Bots in the $22 SNGs on Party

Come on poker stars, open it up. Let us help you maintain your reputation.

Sincerely,
a concerned online player

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Completely agree, and I've never been fond of datamining.

Victor 10-19-2007 05:03 PM

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
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HA HA.

Come on. This has nothing to do with the scandal. You only want an easy way how to collect data.

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The drug-free MVP

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are you sure?

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doesnt matter. the negatives of data collection are far outweighed by the positives of uncovering illicit play.

JSmith2007 10-19-2007 05:03 PM

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
No.

No and no.

Are you retarded? I may have misunderstood, but you want observers be allowed to see the hands of all players?

Let's just make this PokerFlipaments then.

MyTurn2Raise 10-19-2007 05:06 PM

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
no...just allow observers to collect hands and see those showndown....that's been enough to catch all the incidents

don't need to see everyone's hands

MyTurn2Raise 10-19-2007 05:08 PM

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
[ QUOTE ]
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HA HA.

Come on. This has nothing to do with the scandal. You only want an easy way how to collect data.

[ QUOTE ]
The drug-free MVP

[/ QUOTE ]
are you sure?

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doesnt matter. the negatives of data collection are far outweighed by the positives of uncovering illicit play.

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the only negative I see is it comes out that there are some violations of T&C going on

is party worse because mining is allowed?
is full tilt worse because mining is allowed?

what is poker stars hiding?

Benal 10-19-2007 05:09 PM

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
Agree 100%. Besides, I'm sure some people are already mining Stars, and have for some time.

JSmith2007 10-19-2007 05:13 PM

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
PokerStars has not been one of a high stakes site such as Full Tilt and Stars are. The biggest game you'll see going on is probably 200/400 limit, maybeee 500/1000 at times. And most of those players are big time known poker players and/or PokerStars reps.

I don't think PokerStars is hiding anything or need to. I don't think datamining should be allowed unless they adopt Lee Jones' system and make everyone Player1, Player4, Player2, etc. etc. Otherwise, datamining would take a huge part of the game out.

MyTurn2Raise 10-19-2007 05:17 PM

Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining
 
what huge part of the game does it take out?

I mean, regulars already have a ton of info on other regs....not sure what else there is to it


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