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bellatrix 10-24-2007 04:28 AM

I play bad against tilt walruz
 
Picture the situation. 4/8 Full kill game. Fat woman basically lives in the casino. She is so idiotic, everybody lives off her. She keeps quacking this and that, so the leeching her chips part is not fun. She says she's down 5 racks, but she's been there since 11 am (it's 11:30pm). She's tilting hard. Game suddenly gets kinda shorthanded (6 players) and it's a kill pot. Button is killer.

Hero is BB (4$) with Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Fold to walruz who raises to 16, killer folds, SB folds, Hero calls

Spewy? Probably. 2-1 odds. mhmmmm. She could be stealing? Stealing in B&M at 4/8, though?

Flop (5SB): K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, walruz bets, hero calls

Does c/r here make sense? I screwed up the rest of the hand even worse so I'll just stop here.

StrictlyStrategy 10-24-2007 04:33 AM

Re: I play bad against tilt walruz
 
I CR here 100% even if they aren't on tilt.

BadBigBabar 10-24-2007 04:34 AM

Re: I play bad against tilt walruz
 
well that's not really good poker.

BadBigBabar 10-24-2007 04:36 AM

Re: I play bad against tilt walruz
 
calling down is fine if she'll keep bluffing or betting like 99, since a c/r will make her fold her rags. and if she has a better hand then raising will just cost us lots of monies (this is assuming we want to see showdown).

BadBigBabar 10-24-2007 04:43 AM

Re: I play bad against tilt walruz
 
i mean c/r charges draws sometimes but that's not a huge part of her range i don't think. it's hard to tell what her opening range is here without a better read from op.

bellatrix 10-24-2007 04:57 AM

Re: I play bad against tilt walruz
 
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i mean c/r charges draws sometimes but that's not a huge part of her range i don't think. it's hard to tell what her opening range is here without a better read from op.

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Well, if you're on tilt, I think you'll raise what you normally call with (+ what you normally raise with of course), so top 25-30% of your hands. I know, I know, that doesn't narrow it down much.

Here are some more observations...
She raised AKs and called it down unimproved against some "idiot" who hit a pair.
She 3-bet AJs.
I saw here call offsuit broadway cards from any position.
She did not bet her winning pair of 8 on a K82T4 HU.

And then... I have a hard time putting people on a hand when they are on tilt, because they are just angry and raise. I tend to just play a bit passive and show down my hand. But when I get a kind of marginal hand, I freeze.

neurotiq 10-24-2007 06:18 AM

Re: I play bad against tilt walruz
 
I think the call is great. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] If you're behind, you're not spewing. If you're ahead, she'll likely keep throwing chips into you as long as you're not showing strength.

LateFlag 10-24-2007 08:57 AM

Re: I play bad against tilt walruz
 
I would normally c/r this flop, but if you know villain is tilting, then c/c on every street is good. Let her spew.

Point Blank 10-24-2007 07:48 PM

Re: I play bad against tilt walruz
 
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well that's not really good poker.

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thanks for coming out - noob ... lol

4:34, 4:36, 4:43 - so this is how you get so many posts [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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