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kross 10-31-2007 01:19 AM

A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
New to the table, only about my 2nd hand actually (plus a couple observed hands waiting for the BB), but button has been very aggressive.

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO folds, <font color="#FF0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#FF0000">Button caps!</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: (11.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">Button bets</font>, Hero ... ???

I think arguments can be made for calling, check/raising, and folding. I tend to fold in these spots, but I feel dirty when I do...

thepizzlefosho 10-31-2007 01:30 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
I think until you have some other info about the player this is a super standard fold. your RIO in these situations are really bad.

kross 10-31-2007 01:34 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
That's what I thought. I'm usually dominated, and I don't know if I'm looking to spike an A or a 7.

efficacy 10-31-2007 01:37 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
instamuck for me.

kross 10-31-2007 01:39 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
So the fact that it's only 4 handed and villain is playing very aggressive doesn't change that? Still an easy fold?

Leader 10-31-2007 01:40 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
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So the fact that it's only 4 handed and villain is playing very aggressive doesn't change that? Still an easy fold?

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What is very agro? Something particular or just you saw him raise some hands but no SD.

kross 10-31-2007 01:43 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
Not retarded maniac, just aggro. Raising a lot, betting a lot, showing down a spiked pair on the river, the usual stuff you see 4 handed.

Leader 10-31-2007 01:49 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
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Not retarded maniac, just aggro. Raising a lot, betting a lot, showing down a spiked pair on the river, the usual stuff you see 4 handed.

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This isn't really a read. I mean this describes me and 25/17 guys and 50/25 guys. I peel this vs a lot of 50/25 guys and would sometimes do so against someone like myself, but most players don't cap light. So unless you've seen him 3-bet pf real light(J8s, A2s, K7o, 65s ect.) or better cap light, you're probably in very bad shape.

kross 10-31-2007 01:52 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
That's what I thought, I just wanted to make sure. And yes, I know it's not much of a read.

mvoss 10-31-2007 06:04 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
Easy fold for me.

Realyn 10-31-2007 07:59 AM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
yeah, what are you hoping for?

24 all the time? Ok, lets say he has 24 all the time, he will still bet the turn. so fold or have a plan for the hand to bring it to the showdown.

and btw &gt; BB calls, Button caps!, Hero calls, BB folds. &lt;-- best play ever!

kross 10-31-2007 01:36 PM

Re: A7s, 4 bets PF, what\'s my play?
 
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and btw &gt; BB calls, Button caps!, Hero calls, BB folds. &lt;-- best play ever!

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Yeah I couldn't believe it when I saw it, I was like "WTF?!?"


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