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BKiCe 11-30-2007 08:46 PM

HU hand from 30r
 
so a friend of mine played this hand while heads up in the tilt 30 rebuy a few days ago:

we have approx a 3:1 CL on villain. this is the 7th hand of HU so no real reads but we know him to be very aggro and spewy. in a previous tourney a few weeks ago villain cold 4bet shoved on our threebet with KQo and no fold equity. the hand (might not be 100% accurate but close enough):

blinds 5k/10k, we have approx 1.1 mill to villain's 340k. villain limps button, we raise to 40k with 77. villain calls. flop Q Q 9 rainbow, we lead 55k and he shoves for 300k total. what range do you put him on, what's your play, and why?

timex 11-30-2007 08:51 PM

Re: HU hand from 30r
 
I fold here because even against a hand like KJ or T8 your about 50/50, your decently behind JT, and your crushed if hes shoving any Q's or 9's, and I doubt he has random overs here often, but even if he has like AT, your only 60/40, I just think his range needs to be such a HUGE % bluffs for a call to be profitable.

juttelstud 11-30-2007 09:31 PM

Re: HU hand from 30r
 
Fwiw, the crucial part to defining his range is my belief (this is my hand) that he shoves a lot of small pairs here, a lot of random hands as a bluff, and a lot of random ace highs.

Obviously you can not tell this from a raw HH, but given our history I felt it necessary to include those types of hands while trying to define his range as he views me as real aggro and I doubt he's ever trying to give me much credit on a paired board.

BKiCe 11-30-2007 09:37 PM

Re: HU hand from 30r
 
it seems contradictory to me that you think he is spazzy enough to shove "random hands as a bluff and a lot of random ace highs" but at the same time you think he is just limp-calling a small pair with 35 bbs (rather than limp-shoving)

Bond18 11-30-2007 09:42 PM

Re: HU hand from 30r
 
Does villain ever actually shove a Q on this flop or is he almost always flatting?

juttelstud 11-30-2007 09:47 PM

Re: HU hand from 30r
 
uhh, I doubt he shoves a Q here, maybe 5% of the time or so? I imagine he flats/or raises to 140k or so with a queen.

ZJ123 12-01-2007 12:46 AM

Re: HU hand from 30r
 
call

BKiCe 12-01-2007 01:14 PM

Re: HU hand from 30r
 
i don't think villain ever has a Q here

charder - what range do you put him on?

markysals11 12-01-2007 01:18 PM

Re: HU hand from 30r
 
I agree BK that he never has a Q, but hands like K9 J9 and 89 all pop into my head because he's too short to fold them on this kind of flop. Also, any sort of draw is a favorite so I think we fold and move on w/ our 1mill to 400kish chip lead and grind him down.

ZJ123 12-01-2007 01:22 PM

Re: HU hand from 30r
 
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i don't think villain ever has a Q here

charder - what range do you put him on?

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honestly i was really bored last nite at TS, messing around with some people and just opened 5 threads and posted call in all of them without looking. In reality i wouldn't hateee a call, but i think this is a fold. You don't have great equity against his range imo.


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