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Wilpro 11-16-2007 12:11 PM

10nl AK, K high flop
 
Hey, is this just pure awful spew, or do other stack of here. Villain seems like a normal 10nl tard, 40vpip/5pfr

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $7.65
BB: $10.70
UTG: $4.15
Hero (CO): $9.85
BTN: $9.95

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.45</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.35, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.90</font>, BB calls $0.90, UTG folds

Turn: ($3.20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.90</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $9.35 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $6.60 and is All-In

River: ($20.20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

<font color="white"> Results: $20.20 Pot ($1 Rake)
BB showed 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Threes) and WON $19.20 (+$9.35 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$9.85 NET) </font>

hoyasaxa 11-16-2007 12:16 PM

Re: 10nl AK, K high flop
 
bet more on the flop

turn is an easy fold, that line almost always beats 1 pair

latvaniemi 11-16-2007 12:17 PM

Re: 10nl AK, K high flop
 
I would def bet it harder on the flop making it 1,1-1,2

On the turn your probably beat i dont see an kj doing this neither an ak since betting the flop represented that you hit the k. Quite sure he had kq or p 9's?

So guess i would fold without read.

hoyasaxa 11-16-2007 12:20 PM

Re: 10nl AK, K high flop
 
Basically, dont call a turn check raise all in with 1 pair. period. Villains line represents a monster, like top two or a flopped set.

baluga theorem:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...Number=6607951

whoshotfirst 11-16-2007 12:25 PM

Re: 10nl AK, K high flop
 
I would say range includes 2Ps(KQ), sets maybe even JTs, I would say our equity is &lt;33%, so fold it's probably close. Don't know if he would do this with KJ.

hoyasaxa 11-16-2007 12:26 PM

Re: 10nl AK, K high flop
 
this is not close. this is an instamuck. dont think twice about folding this hand

thoman8r 11-16-2007 12:29 PM

Re: 10nl AK, K high flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
Basically, dont call a turn check raise all in with 1 pair. period.


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Let's not get carried away. There are definitely situations where it is appropriate to call when a villain takes this line. Poker is not a game of absolutes.

However, you are right that in this spot, this is a clear fold.

Wilpro 11-16-2007 12:29 PM

Re: 10nl AK, K high flop
 
Nice theory. Think i was just happy to finally hit a flop, and had stopped thinking about what my oppenent could have. Thanks for the input

hoyasaxa 11-16-2007 12:31 PM

Re: 10nl AK, K high flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Basically, dont call a turn check raise all in with 1 pair. period.


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Let's not get carried away. There are definitely situations where it is appropriate to call when a villain takes this line. Poker is not a game of absolutes.

However, you are right that in this spot, this is a clear fold.

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youre absolutely right, there are some people against whom folding would be a mistake. but it would take a real solid read and a different board for that to happen.

bsball8806 11-16-2007 12:37 PM

Re: 10nl AK, K high flop
 
yeah, this is quite an easy fold. Set or KQ looks most likely.


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