Big draw/wierd turn spot
 

Seems slightly loose over a very limited sample

5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BT raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3.33SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, BT checks.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (1.67BB, 2 players)
Hero...

no sb

Re: Big draw/wierd turn spot
 

How did you get OOP? Convertor screwup? I would just check/call.

Re: Big draw/wierd turn spot
 

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How did you get OOP? Convertor screwup? I would just check/call.

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SB sat out. I dislike how FT handles that btw.

Re: Big draw/wierd turn spot
 

Villains turn check is going to be hard to interpret. It may have alot to do with how aggressively you have been playing and how villain views you. Not wanting to be put in a semi-bluff situation with overcards for example.

I just check that card. More in his range and you're not getting much in the way of odds on a bet

EDIT: Obviously I meant Villians flop check

Re: Big draw/wierd turn spot
 

seems like a super easy check/call to me. the problem is even when he doesn't have the ace he's going to pretend that he does.

also it looks like they handle the missing sb just fine. assuming I'm reading the hh right -- he just paid the bb? as long as he can't come back in for free before his bb. stars handles it much worse, they would have you be the sb this hand.

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I think it's close to a bet/call. Yes, the pot is small, but our equity is so good we don't really mind getting raised here. We only need to take the pot down a small percent of the time to show a profit and there's no reason to think button is near certain to have a piece of the board. And because it's such a small pot, button has little reason to make a play at it or call down without a pair.

Re: Big draw/wierd turn spot
 

I usually c/c but not sure i don't like c/r better than b/c.

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I think it's close to a bet/call. Yes, the pot is small, but our equity is so good we don't really mind getting raised here.

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like 30% max when we get raised.

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We only need to take the pot down a small percent of the time to show a profit and there's no reason to think button is near certain to have a piece of the board.

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no better hands are folding -- they either hit that ace or have a gutshot. and worse hands are very often stabbing and giving up on the river.

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And because it's such a small pot, button has little reason to make a play at it or call down without a pair.

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solid argument if we know he's a thinking player which he most definitely is not

Re: Big draw/wierd turn spot
 

I would bet/call.But that is because I sometimes donk made hands also.

Re: Big draw/wierd turn spot
 

This draw is huge!
Even Hu bet and raise from flopp and onwards, I see no reason to c/r or c/c here. I too believe that this spot is more important in regards to balancing a playbook , then a pf one, as you need to play this as wou would a good few other hands that are already made imo, even more so because its a bob

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