Two Plus Two Newer Archives - A survey to whoever go to cardroom this weekend.

Dear 2+2ers-

Nice weekend is coming. If you plan to stop at cardroom nearby this weekend, please correct this file after your game. Many previous 2+2ers helped to revise this report. Still there might be some incorrect information.

This is an updated post from http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post12274892

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# of tables and steak and rake amount

Whenever we fly, we look for a new place to bet. For your possible future travel, this list is collected by many 2+2 participants in many different states and can be copied by only whoever contribute to this list. Any correction can be reported to 2+2 posting or jk90029@yahoo.com for common share by 2+2ers.

1. average number of tables at 9PM for last seven days. Obviously, more in weekend and less in weekdays.
2. buyin and stake 3.SB&BB 4.Limit or No-Limit 5. pot rake(preflop+postflop+jackpotdrop) or hourly time charge

*)Names of cardrooms (#of poker tables, employees) are ordered from west to east coast.
*)Only mid-limit games are listed, such as no-limit NLHE$200 or higher and limit LHE $5/$10 or higher. For lower limit than that, it may not be worth to play after the huge accumulated rake amount.
*)'$600<buy' implies 'Initial byuins can be at least $600 or $600'.
*) '($2/$5)' implies 'small blind $2 and big blind $5'.
*)'$8/HH' implies '$8 mandatory collection per every half hour'.
*)'NFND' implies 'No flop, no drop'. Otherwise, $1 drop at preflop dealt.

Commerce(160, 2400) commercecasino.com $1 increase from January 2007 (323)721-2100 x635
5 tables of $9/$18 LHE, no free meal
5 tables of $20/$40 LHE $1+$4, free meal
4 tables of $40/$80 LHE $1+$4, free meal
8 tables of $200buy ($3/$5) NLHE $1+$3+$1, no free meal, rebuy up to $300
10 tables of $400buy ($5/$10) NLHE $1+$4+$1, free meal, rebuy up to $600
3 tables of ($600<buy) ($10/$20) NLHE $9 per HH, free meal

Bicycle(110, 1700) thebicyclecasino.com (562)806-4646 x545
2 tables of $100buy ($2/$3) NLHE $4+$1, NFND, no free meal
3 tables of $200buy ($3/$5) NLHE $4+$1, NFND, free meal
2 tables of $300<buy<$500 ($5/$5) NLHE $4+$1, NFND, free meal
3 tables of $500<buy ($5/$10) NLHE $4+$1, NFND, free meal

Hollywood Park(108) playhpc.com (310)330-2841 (800)888-HWP
5 tables of $100buy ($2/$3) NLHE $4+$1, NFND, no free meal
3 tables of $200buy ($3/$5) NLHE $4+$1, NFND, no free meal
3 tables of $400buy ($5/$10) NLHE $4+$1, NFND, no free meal

Hawaiian Garden

Hustler

Phoenix, AZ
NLHE prohibited by state law

Venetian venetian.com
2 tables of $100<buy<$1000 ($2/$5) NLHE $1 at $10/$20/$50/$90 (up to $4)
1 tables of $800buy ($10/$20) NLHE $7/HH

Bellagio bellagio.com
$200-$500 ($2/$5) NLHE 10% upto$4
$800buy ($10/$20) NLHE $7/HH
$500buy ($30/$60) NLHE $6/HH
$800buy ($40/$80) NLHE $7/HH
$1000buy ($60/$120) NLHE $7/HH

Mirage

Bay 101 bay101.com and Garden City gardencitycasino.com in San Jose, CA
$1 + flat $3

Canterbury Park canterburypark.com/cardclub.aspx
10% up to $5 + $1 jackpot drop as high as Commerce
NLHE prohibited by state law

Milwaukee
$4, No jackpot system

Turning Stone turning-stone.com
10% up to $4

Foxwoods(100+ tables) foxwoods.com (203)885-3177 x5374 (800)48POKER
12 tables of $300>buy ($1/$2) NLHE, $5/HH, no free meal Cheap!!!
6 tables of $500>buy ($2/$5) NLHE, no free meal
??? of $10/$20 LHE, $0(preflop) + $2(flop) +$1(pot>$80) + $1(pot>$160), NFND
1 table of $40/$80 LHE

Mohegan Sun mohegansun.com (888)226-7711

Borgata theborgata.com
15 tables of $300buy ($1/$2) NLHE, 10% up to $4, no free meal Cheap!!!
9 tables of $500buy ($2/$5) NLHE, $5/HH, no free meal Cheap!!!
??? of $1500buy ($5/$10) NLHE, $6/HH. no free meal
6 tables of $10/$20 LHE and 5 tables of $20/$40 LHE and 2 tables of $40/$80 LHE

TajMahal (65+ tables) trumptaj.com (609)449-1000 x4746
3 tables of $10/$20 LHE, no free meal
3 tables of $20/$40 LHE, no free meal

Trop tropicana.net (800)257-6227

Hard Rock in Tampa hardrockhotelcasinotampa.com
??? of ($2/$5) NLHE

Kennel Club(22 tables) in Daytona jckcpokerroom.com (850)997-2561 Noon to Midnight, Closed on Sunday
1/2NLHE main game
4 tables of ($2/$5) NLHE, insane game

Brighton Seminole seminolecasinobrighton.com
10% up to $5 + $1 jackpot

Immokalee Seminole theseminolecasino.com
LHE - 10% up to $5 + $1 jackpot drop.
NLHE - 10% up to $6 + $1 jackpot drop.

Vancouver Edgewater (15) edgewatercasino.ca (604)408-4060 cheaper than riverrock
($100<buy<$200) $1/$2 NLHE $3+$1(jackpot)
($200<buy<$1000) $2/$5 NLHE $3+$1(jackpot)

Vancouver River Rock (30) riverrock.com (604)247-8983 close to airport, call to reserve the seat an hour before arrival
($40<buy<$200) $1/$2 NLHE, 10% up to $5 + $1 jackpot
($200<buy<$1000) $2/$5 NLHE, 10% up to $5 + $1 jackpot

Aviation Club de France Paris EnglishSite
€100buy (€2/€4) NLHE €4 for pot=€50 and €6 for pot>€100, plus jackpot drop
€250buy (€5/€5) NLHE €10/HH, plus jackpot drop
€500buy (€5/€10) NLHE €15/HH, without jackpot drop
€200buy €10/€20 LHE €10/HH, plus jackpot drop
€400buy €30/€60 LHE €15/HH, without jackpot drop

SkyCity casino, Auckland NewZealand skycity.co.nz ($=NZ$)
5 tables of $200 buy ($2/$5) NLHE 10% up to $15 highest rake in the world !?

Airport casino, Manila Phillipines p=peso
6 tables of 100p/200p and 200p/400p

Macau , Cambodia, Malaysia, Korea - open soon

Please read this paragraph only if you think the pot rake is NOT a big problem. It is simple to figure out how much a young man shall pay the life-time rake, who began poker at 25 and finish poker 55 and continue playing 1000 hours every year (say, as a regular player) The $5 rake is equivalent to hourly rake of about $25, for estimated 45 hands per hour. He pays $25K per SINGLE year and WILL PAY total $750K in his 30 years of poker life, except his tipping to dealers. Therefore, after Commerce raised from $4 to $5 in January 2007, the young man pay from $600K to $750K as his total life-time rake. So $1 increase shall take $150K more from his asset in his life.
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