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Woolygimp 11-21-2007 07:19 AM

Bottom Set and Nut Straight Draw??
 
PokerStars Game #13373947939: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/11/21 - 06:06:11 (ET)
Table 'Oppavia V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: FRANCVINC ($1.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Woolygimp ($42.55 in chips)
Seat 3: trsh335 ($29.10 in chips)
Seat 4: aufzuckerter ($58.15 in chips)
Seat 5: mrXomyak ($13.30 in chips)
mrXomyak: posts small blind $0.10
FRANCVINC: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Woolygimp [Kc 8h 8s Jd]
Woolygimp: raises $0.60 to $0.85
trsh335: folds
aufzuckerter: calls $0.85
mrXomyak: folds
FRANCVINC: raises $0.25 to $1.10 and is all-in
Woolygimp: calls $0.25
aufzuckerter: calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [Tc Qd 8c]
Woolygimp: bets $2
aufzuckerter: raises $4.75 to $6.75
Woolygimp: raises $16.75 to $23.50
aufzuckerter: raises $33.55 to $57.05 and is all-in
Woolygimp: calls $17.95 and is all-in

automat 11-21-2007 07:32 AM

Re: Bottom Set and Nut Straight Draw??
 
edit: sorry, misread the board.

Woolygimp 11-21-2007 07:35 AM

Re: Bottom Set and Nut Straight Draw??
 
I put him on the straight, and if that's what he holds then I'm ahead.

crashwhips 11-22-2007 12:14 AM

Re: Bottom Set and Nut Straight Draw??
 
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I put him on the straight, and if that's what he holds then I'm ahead.

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Yeah, not to mention that he could have a hand that you are way ahead such as a gutter + nfd, JKA without diamonds, two pair and straight draw, even bare top two. Getting it in here is very standard

iggymcfly 11-22-2007 04:42 AM

Re: Bottom Set and Nut Straight Draw??
 
Nice hand. A lot of people make the mistake of playing passively in this kind of spot since they "know they're against a straight".

However, even if that's the case, a straight can't improve here and our improvement is fairly obvious so we still lose a ton of equity by just calling. This is a much different situation than having a draw against a set where the set can hit "kill cards" that make your hand worthless.

TimberBee 11-22-2007 08:16 AM

Re: Bottom Set and Nut Straight Draw??
 
At first I thought, wtf wow he's overplaying bottom set. Then I noticed the KJ as well, and then it's really okay, even if he has J9. Suck if he has clubs, but you still have good equity. Good hand

blopp 11-22-2007 08:40 AM

Re: Bottom Set and Nut Straight Draw??
 
Postflop is good, nice ev play with some variance as bonus. Preflop is fold, esp utg.


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