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Scotty_12 09-24-2007 12:15 AM

$200 QQ pf @ 1-2, I raise 3bb with 10bb behind, then 2 others AI
 
Info: This hand happend a month ago and i found the s aved HH tonight while putting in some studying time. In the opponents eyes, I should have a solid reputation, 3 straight months at the top of the tlb. First shover is a screenname I recognize, but for some reason did not note his pt stats i nthe text file. This may mean he is average, or may just mean I was 12 tabling, he lost the hand, and I didnt have time. It is not likely he is the type to note solid play or respect that I probably have a solid hand raising from MP, as he is not on my 'solid players' list. Second shover is 15.5/7.4 thruogh 150 early (7-10 handed)


No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1700
UTG+1: t4420
Hero: t2630
CO: t1970
Button: t4170
SB: t2210
BB: t2900

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t600</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t2110</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in t2700</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t690 returned to BB.

Final pot: t3410

RexWoo 09-24-2007 04:04 AM

Re: $200 QQ pf @ 1-2, I raise 3bb with 10bb behind, then 2 others AI
 
With your read, SB's range could be semi wide imo, 88+, AJs+, AQ, KQs, something like that.
BB's range is probably smaller, JJ+, AK ? TT ? Not much more imo.

EV Fold = 11.3% (if BB wins, probably close if SB wins)
EV Win = 31.1%
EV Lose = 0 (if BB wins)

So you need roughly 36.3% equity in the pot.

It turns that you have almost exactly that against the range I give, so it does not seem to matter a lot if you call or fold.
I have not done the math

Little John 09-24-2007 08:02 AM

Re: $200 QQ pf @ 1-2, I raise 3bb with 10bb behind, then 2 others AI
 
i'm would always call here. it is a co/sb/bb battle. the sb can put you on a semi-wide range and reshove with a range well behind your hand. the second shover is obviously on a pretty tight range (maybe JJ AK, but could also do something stupid with a couple of other hands). so even if you are a tad behind his range you have a big overaly.

plus sometimes first shover will have AJ and second will have AK, so villians are basically drawing to two outs.

darinvg 09-24-2007 09:18 AM

Re: $200 QQ pf @ 1-2, I raise 3bb with 10bb behind, then 2 others AI
 
Call. Pretty tough to laydown QQ at BB 200.

Scotty_12 09-24-2007 02:51 PM

Re: $200 QQ pf @ 1-2, I raise 3bb with 10bb behind, then 2 others AI
 
Maybe I was just playing too risk averse and being a chicken. I just figured if I wasnt coolered, I likely had to dodge 5 cards (2 set outs + 3 overcard outs, or 2 aces+3 kings) and I didnt like BB making the call after that action - i felt he could and should have like AA/KK half the time there (or the other QQ) -Plus with 10 bbs I am still very able to manage if I can get away from it ... With this and one of the other hands I posted, it looks like I need to make more 'agressive calls' lol


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