PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the turn?
 

4th hand of MTT. What should I do on the turn and why?

Poker Stars, $50 + $5 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: 2,580
BB: 3,130
UTG: 2,970
UTG+1: 2,940
Hero (UTG+2): 3,050
MP1: 2,930
MP2: 4,140
CO: 3,060
BTN: 2,180

Pre-Flop: (30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+2)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls 20, Hero calls 20, 3 folds, BTN calls 20, SB calls 10, BB checks

Flop: (100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets 20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 100</font>, BTN calls 100, 3 folds

Turn: (320) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)

Hero...

Re: PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the tu
 

I'm betting 2/3 pot for value here and getting it in on the river if he calls. He likes his hand enough to call after you raise the flop over the minbet, so he's gotta have something and we're only beat by 99 and 55 (99 would possibly raise over the limpers preflop and I doubt JT calls the flop bet here).

So I'd be in build-a-pot mode after the turn Q.

Re: PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the tu
 

I agree I see little reason to do anything but lead here and get value from K9-KJ and maybe even a weird hand like Q9 or something. If he has 99 or 55 we're in bad trouble but I don't really see any way of avoiding it.

Re: PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the turn?
 

sherman...do you usually limp KQ here? I guess it's suited and all...as played I bet 300ish and call a push...if he gutted you he gutted you...if he has a set he has a set

Re: PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the turn?
 

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sherman...do you usually limp KQ here?

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TBH, I don't know. I think sometimes I limp and sometimes I raise. Early on in the MTT I am more prone to limp...I think. I'd actually have to go check my hand histories to see what I "usually" do, b/c I have no idea. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the tu
 

This early, I'm usually limping KQ and almost always limping if someone's already limped in ahead of me.

Re: PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the tu
 

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almost always limping if someone's already limped in ahead of me.

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Yeah. This is probably more why I limped than anything else.

Re: PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the tu
 

OK, everyone wants to bet...


Poker Stars, $50 + $5 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: 2,580
BB: 3,130
UTG: 2,970
UTG+1: 2,940
Hero (UTG+2): 3,050
MP1: 2,930
MP2: 4,140
CO: 3,060
BTN: 2,180

Pre-Flop: (30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+2)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls 20, Hero calls 20, 3 folds, BTN calls 20, SB calls 10, BB checks

Flop: (100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets 20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 100</font>, BTN calls 100, 3 folds

Turn: (320) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets 220</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to 520</font>, Hero

Now what?

Re: PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the tu
 

I considered a c/c, but too much chance this guy will check down. I think about T200 raise, make it look like a scared 9x,while still denying odds for backdoor FD. I doubt you'll see a set here, so if he shoves the turn I'd call.

Re: PS $50 KQ flops TP in limped pot, non-drawy flop; action on the tu
 

Ugh...

Push. Yeah, 55 is looking somewhat more likely here but my money says he has KcJc or KcTc and now has a bazillion outs.