Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

Villain is loose semi-stack. This is just a bet sizing question. Am I better off doing this, or going for a value raise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($32.90)
BB ($33.85)
UTG ($29.50)
UTG+1 ($40)
MP1 ($61.65)
MP2 ($67.15)
CO ($48)
Hero ($50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, SB calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($3.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, SB calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($8.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35.5</font>

Re: Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

against bad opponents I like shoving in these spots. If they call a decent raise they are probably calling allin

Re: Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

i opt for a value raise.... if i am villain i fold my 6 here.

Re: Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

I feel like shoving basically folds out everything except chops (or the rare 66 or J7) If he's that bad if we value raise who knows he may look us up with A high.

Re: Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

i don't like this, just make it 7 or something.

Re: Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

Pushing folds anything besides something that beats you or chops.

A value raise here gets calls from a 6, middle pocket pair, or even A-high.

Re: Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

You guys think a loose semi-stack is folding a 6 here?

Re: Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

If the river didn't make a flush I'd hate it. I think a loose player is calling sometimes if he can beat a flush.

Re: Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

If he'd bet out 5 or 6 I'd like it better. This small bet seems like either a weak attempt at bluffing the flush card (which which case, he'll probably fold to any raise) or a weak lead trying to incite a raising war. Either way, I think value-raising will be more effective. If he's got nothing, he'll fold to either, but if he's weak-leading, we can let him hang himself, whereas a shove might scare him off.

Re: Gazeebo hand (warning, made hand!); 50NL
 

Geez, how many gazeebos do you shemales need?