incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

been playing against this guy for like an hour and a half. His preflop stats are pretty fishy but as far flop play was concerned he was not spewing, not making big plays as far as id seen. i had a terrible feeling about it as soon as he instaminraised, but i felt like i should figure out where i was as big draws were def a big part of his range.

What's a better line to take here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($72.60)
Hero ($201.90)
Button ($130.65)
SB ($143.65)
BB ($186.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $182.95</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $243.45

Re: incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

i like your 4 bet and your fold, nothing more you can do in this spot, i know it sucks but WP

Re: incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

nasty spot. i doubt he would instaminraise with a set....

what is his agression factor, and his raise Cbet %

easy play when 100BB deep, 190BB deep makes it really tough.

these are the spots i have absolutely no idea what to do. as you have put it across i think the fold is ok, cos we aren't even in that good shape against a draw, and could be crushed

Re: incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

This is not good. You are basically turning your hand into air

Re: incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

he has T9 or 99 a lot here...

Re: incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

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he has T9 or 99 a lot here...

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oh yes. also JJ can be discounted because of PF, and we kill lower sets somewhat.

Re: incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

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This is not good. You are basically turning your hand into air

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I didn't think it was good. wtf is the best line here?

Re: incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

is this villain ever going to just call your 4-bet with a worse hand? If not I like calling the raise and leading a safe turn, if he'll call/shove worse then I like 4-bet/call. Still I'm not that excited about getting it AI here.

Re: incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

Just call the raise. I don't think I've ever 4-bet/folded in my life and I don't think it's a move anyone needs.

Re: incredibly gross board with bottom two against a 36/21
 

Call the flop raise. There's tons of draws he can be pushing.

Btw hero didn't 4-bet anywhere in this hand.