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ungar2000 11-29-2007 02:00 PM

flop nuts, T/R suck
 
Villian is 60/11 with AF of 3.23 over 106 hands
Im at 20/15/5

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($46, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $33</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($112, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $100</font>, Hero calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($312, 2 players)
Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $312

500.00 deep

Flop play is standard, but turn play? Riv?

sholler 11-29-2007 02:05 PM

Re: flop nuts, T/R suck
 
wouldve lead turn and shoved if he raised

cheer 11-29-2007 02:48 PM

Re: flop nuts, T/R suck
 
what he said

theplux 11-29-2007 02:48 PM

Re: flop nuts, T/R suck
 
and bet more on the flop :\

c_hoop 11-29-2007 02:49 PM

Re: flop nuts, T/R suck
 
yeah. he's probably not betting worse on the turn so c/r is no good. just get it in yourself with your 1,000,000 outs if you are actually behind.

AaronOC 11-29-2007 02:52 PM

Re: flop nuts, T/R suck
 
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wouldve lead turn and shoved if he raised

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love2puck14 11-29-2007 03:01 PM

Re: flop nuts, T/R suck
 
when u check call the turn i think you give away where you are in the hand and i think the real question should be what would u have done if he value bets the riv

Pokernomix 11-29-2007 03:17 PM

Re: flop nuts, T/R suck
 
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when u check call the turn i think you give away where you are in the hand and i think the real question should be what would u have done if he value bets the riv

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....im not sure you give away exactly AA, but agreed, I don't see the point of putting a lot of $ in on the turn. Your hand doesn't have nearly as much value as it did on the flop; im not sure how many second best hands are mathematically and realistically possible here for your villian. I woulda just checked and called, or perhaps bet about 1/2 the pot on the turn. The riv is pretty tricky, you could possibly lead out with a small bet to try and get a cheap showdown, but any smart opponent may read this for what it is...i would prob check and decide whether to call based upon my read and the amount bet on the river...

Pokernomix 11-29-2007 03:18 PM

Re: flop nuts, T/R suck
 
how much did the villain bet on the riv?

HustlerLA 11-29-2007 03:23 PM

Re: flop nuts, T/R suck
 
As played I think its an easy fold. He will check anything you beat.
As for the advice to bet/3bet allin on turn. I dont see why this is good. [ QUOTE ]
yeah. he's probably not betting worse on the turn so c/r is no good. just get it in yourself with your 1,000,000 outs if you are actually behind.

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You dont have that many outs, probably 8 or 9, with one card to come and you are a bit deeper than a buyin. I think a Bet/fold is okay too, I dont think a bluff raise is likely. But so far I am the only one who doesnt like bet/3bet allin on turn.


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