Re: Hands to choose to play against AAxx?
 

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having a pair in your hand doesn't hurt as much as people think.

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i agree - you are about 7-1 to flop a set with something like QQxx, and from some math i believe buzz did its about the same to flop a much weaker 2 pair with say 5678. Of course you are going to have some kind of straight potential with the rundown, but i much prefer the set

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A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] v. 8765n = 57:43

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] v. 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] = 53:47

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] v. 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] = 59:41

AAKTn v. 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] = 49.8: 50.2

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] v. K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] = 69:32

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] v. J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] = 65:35

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] v. 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] = 55:45

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A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] v. 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] = 54:46

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] v. Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] = 66:34

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] v. Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] = 64:36

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AAxx v. QQxx = 69:31
AAxx v. 9876n = 59:41
AAxx v. QQxxss = 68:32
AAxx v. QQxxds = 64:36


These are only HU. When a third player gets involved (all stacks being equal) under pairs go in the crapper. The top pair and rundown aren't hurt as badly

AAxx v. QQxx v. 9876ss = 42:25:33
AAxx v. QQxxss v. 9876ss = 41:27:32
AAxx v. QQxxds v. 9876ss = 39:30:31

Re: Hands to choose to play against AAxx?
 

This really doesn't have much to do with how the hand is going to play out on the flop and how much profit you'll actually make.

Re: Hands to choose to play against AAxx?
 

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
3 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $70</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $230</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $990</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2970, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in $2643</font>, Hero folds, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $2643 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $2970

Can I fold this preflop against certain aces?

Re: Hands to choose to play against AAxx?
 

emil, I fold in spots like this on regular basis. I would prolly even fold it in position unless you are like 300bb+ deep and/or he is quite donkish and will go broke with his aces regardless of board.

Re: Hands to choose to play against AAxx?
 

If you're "certain" you're up against aces, yeah.

EDIT: didn't see the reraise was so big.

Re: Hands to choose to play against AAxx?
 

Following on from that question.

What are the best re-raising hands, in position, excluding AA, to balance your re-raising range?

Re: Hands to choose to play against AAxx?
 

How loose is your opponent's opening range.

Re: Hands to choose to play against AAxx?
 

Assume a bad player at .5/1 who typically only opens:
AAxx-1010xx and some premium wraps.

Re: Hands to choose to play against AAxx?
 

3-bet with good wraps/ variety of suited double pairs and some other hands depending on the rest of the players at the table, stack sizes, position, and recent history. The problem with 3-betting questions is they are best answered as specific problems with real reads. That is why most threads are specific hands.