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DrewDevil 07-12-2007 04:04 PM

All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
I think this deserves its own thread.

Similar ground rules as the all-time lineup thread:

1. The pitcher must have spent a majority of his career with that team, or more seasons with that team than with any other.

2. Choose four starting pitchers and two relievers. You must select a pitcher in his most common role, e.g., Jon Smoltz is a starter and Dennis Eckersley is a reliever.

3. Choose a rotation that best serves your favorite team.

I'll start with my Houston Astros:

SP Nolan Ryan - spent only 9 of 27 years with the Astros, but more with Houston than with anyone else (8 with Angels, 6 with Rangers)
SP Roy Oswalt - has a chance to move up to #1 on this list, he's that good
SP J.R. Richard - if not for stroke, a sure Hall of Famer, and the only pitcher who caused Mike Schmidt to feel fear at the plate
SP Don Wilson - Mike Scott was a possibility here, but his career was Maris-esque (best in the league for 2-3 years and that's it)
RP Billy Wagner - still don't understand how a 5'9", 170 lb. guy can throw 100 mph
RP Joe Sambito - underrated lefty who was a lights-out closer for a long time

kidcolin 07-12-2007 04:14 PM

Re: All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
Pedro Martinez

dlk9s 07-12-2007 04:16 PM

Re: All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves

Sick starting pitching:

SP Warren Spahn
SP Greg Maddux
SP John Smoltz
SP Tom Glavine
(Reserves - Bob Buhl, Johnny Sain, Lew Burdette)

Solid relief, but nothing exciting:

RP Gene Garber
RP Mark Wohlers

nutshot2 07-12-2007 04:17 PM

Re: All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
New York Yankees
SP - Whitey Ford. The Chairman of the Board.
SP - Ron Guidry. One of the best seasons ever in '78. 25-3 with a 1.74 ERA. Just filthy.
SP - Mel Stottlemyre. Very underappreciated, since he played on some weak Yankee teams. 3x 20-gm winner; 40 shutouts; career ERA under 3.
SP - Allie Reynolds. The horse of the DiMaggio-era teams.
SP - Andy Pettitte. Because I need some modern love, and because I'd take him on a cold October night over a lot of guys.

RP - Goose Gossage. Awesome.
RP - Mariano Rivera. The best ever.

Kneel B4 Zod 07-12-2007 04:22 PM

Re: All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
k I did this in the other thread:

Pedro Martinez
Roger Clemens
Luis Tiant
Cy Young (I'm claiming him unless a Cleveland Spider fan pops up)

RP: Jonathan Papelbon
RP: hmmm Dick Radatz?

in terms of ERA+ in peak years, I don't think you can beat this group. if you adjust for ballpark it would look even better.

Benholio 07-12-2007 04:27 PM

Re: All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
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Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves

Sick starting pitching:
SP Greg Maddux
SP Warren Spahn
SP John Smoltz
SP Phil Niekro
SP Tom Glavine

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Added a 5th starter, and moved Maddux to #1.

edit: Just noticed the rule of 4 starters and 2 closers... Hmm.. I like the 5-man rotation! But if I had to, I would drop Glavine.

TheNoodleMan 07-12-2007 04:32 PM

Re: All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
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Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves

Sick starting pitching:
SP Greg Maddux
SP Warren Spahn
SP John Smoltz
SP Phil Niekro
SP Tom Glavine

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Added a 5th starter, and moved Maddux to #1.

edit: Just noticed the rule of 4 starters and 2 closers... Hmm.. I like the 5-man rotation! But if I had to, I would drop Glavine.

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Keep Glavine and move Smoltz to the pen, LDO.

DrewDevil 07-12-2007 04:34 PM

Re: All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
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Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves

Sick starting pitching:
SP Greg Maddux
SP Warren Spahn
SP John Smoltz
SP Phil Niekro
SP Tom Glavine

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Added a 5th starter, and moved Maddux to #1.

edit: Just noticed the rule of 4 starters and 2 closers... Hmm.. I like the 5-man rotation! But if I had to, I would drop Glavine.

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Keep Glavine and move Smoltz to the pen, LDO.

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BZZZZZZT not allowed, see OP.

TheNoodleMan 07-12-2007 04:37 PM

Re: All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
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Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves

Sick starting pitching:
SP Greg Maddux
SP Warren Spahn
SP John Smoltz
SP Phil Niekro
SP Tom Glavine

[/ QUOTE ]

Added a 5th starter, and moved Maddux to #1.

edit: Just noticed the rule of 4 starters and 2 closers... Hmm.. I like the 5-man rotation! But if I had to, I would drop Glavine.

[/ QUOTE ]

Keep Glavine and move Smoltz to the pen, LDO.

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BZZZZZZT not allowed, see OP.

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This is the internet, I choose to randomly ignore your arbitrary rules.

DrewDevil 07-12-2007 04:39 PM

Re: All-Time Pitching Rotation - By Team
 
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Cy Young

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One of my favorite sports quotes: "I won more games than you ever saw."


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