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donkeykong2 08-01-2007 11:38 AM

Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
While a lot of situations seem intuitive and the correct decision is easily determined, most situations depend on the flow of the game, therefore it is necessary to know the ranges of the players involved in the hand.
my suggestion: anytime you post a hand, you give a description of your range preflop and on the flop, say you raise preflop you tell what other hands you would have raised preflop too, if you raised preflop you tell what part of your raising range you bet/call/fold on the flop given the other players action and the board texture of course. By analysing hands this way the amount of information and skill attained will be far bigger than it is currently as the correct decision for full ranges of hands will be dicussed not only for one hand. We will also be able to spot exploitable play/leaks more easily.

I will give a short example of how it should look like:
preflop: utg, 6 handed game, i raise
raising range (10% of total cards):
big pairs (AA-1010): 2,5%
medium pairs (77-99): 1,5%
big unpaired hands (a9-ak, kq): 6%

bb calls (short decription of bb, dumb idiot calls any 2)

flop comes: Xx Xx Xx
given this board i now:
bet: all pocket pairs (4%)
check: all big unpaired cards (6%)
in this case i had ak and checked.

BB bets amount x.
what does checking range do now?
Ak,Aq (30% of checking range): reraise
others (70% of checking range): fold

i hope you get the idea of this, if you post correctly we can now discuss lots of hands at once and also spot lots of mistakes at once and metagame discussion is possible.

i know a lot of you do it intuitivly in that kind of way but i think it would help a lot if it was actually described in such a way, because it is just a lot easier to understand the problem and learn sth and you will probably get more sophisticated answers.
this is a x-post from ssnl but people were totally ignorant there so let me know what hsnl thinks about that revolutionary idea:

btmagnetw 08-01-2007 11:40 AM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
god no

donkeykong2 08-01-2007 11:41 AM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
lol, why not?

JackAll 08-01-2007 12:34 PM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
Interesting idea, but obv people will not be so INSANE as to post their exact ranges publicly.

Hobb 08-01-2007 12:50 PM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
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donkeykong2 08-01-2007 01:42 PM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
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Interesting idea, but obv people will not be so INSANE as to post their exact ranges publicly.

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they might misinform some of the time or post with hypothetical ranges in case they re to easy to identify.

fishfather 08-01-2007 06:11 PM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
Last night I was raising every hand from the last three positions and cbetting every flop 'cause everybody was folding.

Good idea?

vote yes
vote no

08-01-2007 07:36 PM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
No one is high stakes will do this as it gives away to much information.

I'll lay my $500 to your $100 US if you can get CTS to do this within 2 weeks?

Will escrow w' someone obv.

donkeykong2 08-01-2007 08:01 PM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
ok, i m thinking about that bet, will respond in the next 2 days.

cts 08-01-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Bringing hand analysis to a new level
 
dk2 PMd me asking to split the $500 which certainly doesn't seem to be in the spirit of a fair bet, and tbh I don't care enough about $200 to do some long boring hand analysis I'd rather play or something


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