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darom03 11-15-2007 09:48 PM

@BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed)

BTN (t1950)
SB (t6050)
BB (t2215)
UTG (t3285)

Preflop: BB is with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] .

SB push 6050, BB Calls

BB is Bigjoe2003, who we all know is very good. poker_in_pb is SB and the games I have played with him shows that he pushes any2 in this spot.

But why do you, Bigjoe2003, call here since the play is -EV even if SB is oushing 100%

Is there another reason for the call? Metagame? Tilt? New theory?

Comlete HH below
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PokerStars Game #13264569016: Tournament #67299695, $315+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/11/15 - 20:21:27 (ET)
Table '67299695 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: lilholdem954 (1950 in chips)
Seat 2: poker_in_pb (6050 in chips)
Seat 3: bigjoe2003 (2215 in chips)
Seat 7: coolcj (3285 in chips)
lilholdem954: posts the ante 25
poker_in_pb: posts the ante 25
bigjoe2003: posts the ante 25
coolcj: posts the ante 25
poker_in_pb: posts small blind 100
bigjoe2003: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
coolcj: folds
lilholdem954: folds
poker_in_pb: raises 3000 to 3200
bigjoe2003: calls 1990 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [3h 7s 9c]
*** TURN *** [3h 7s 9c] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [3h 7s 9c Ad] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
poker_in_pb: shows [Js 5h] (high card Ace)
bigjoe2003: shows [Ah 4d] (a pair of Aces)
bigjoe2003 collected 4480 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4480 | Rake 0
Board [3h 7s 9c Ad 2h]
Seat 1: lilholdem954 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: poker_in_pb (small blind) showed [Js 5h] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: bigjoe2003 (big blind) showed [Ah 4d] and won (4480) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: coolcj folded before Flop (didn't bet)

bones 11-15-2007 10:02 PM

Re: @BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
Joey was probably too busy flipping through Oz on his diamond studded remote to care about the $50 in equity.

DeepFryer 11-15-2007 10:21 PM

Re: @BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
You're saying this call is -EV, even if SB is pushing with any hand? That's not true. Unless I'm missing something here, Pokerstove is telling me that A4 is better than a 56% favorite to win against an average hand. Seems like a perfectly reasonable call to me.

jgunnip 11-15-2007 10:35 PM

Re: @BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
[ QUOTE ]
You're saying this call is -EV, even if SB is pushing with any hand? That's not true. Unless I'm missing something here, Pokerstove is telling me that A4 is better than a 56% favorite to win against an average hand. Seems like a perfectly reasonable call to me.

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bones 11-15-2007 10:38 PM

Re: @BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
Do you guys not own sngpt or believe in ICM?

darom03 11-15-2007 10:42 PM

Re: @BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Joey was probably too busy flipping through Oz on his diamond studded remote to care about the $50 in equity.

[/ QUOTE ]

That, or he were sniffing coke of some strippers breasts while letting his trained parrot play the tournament...

ManChild 11-15-2007 10:45 PM

Re: @BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
You're saying this call is -EV, even if SB is pushing with any hand? That's not true. Unless I'm missing something here, Pokerstove is telling me that A4 is better than a 56% favorite to win against an average hand. Seems like a perfectly reasonable call to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

okay, the first response is from a noob, are you levelin in the quote J?

11377 11-15-2007 10:45 PM

Re: @BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
-ev if you do it often but occasionally done its probably the best play... and joe knows hes pushing any two and knows hes ahead so he will gamble... but he will not always call here, his results speak for itself bigjoe is the best

darom03 11-15-2007 10:53 PM

Re: @BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
WTF?!?

I ask a simple question directed to Bigjoe2003 and suddenly I get noobattacked like were they willed by some sinister higher being...

Kevin8423 11-15-2007 10:54 PM

Re: @BigJoe2003: Why do you call here? (bubble)
 
[ QUOTE ]
-ev if you do it often but occasionally done its probably the best play... and joe knows hes pushing any two and knows hes ahead so he will gamble... but he will not always call here, his results speak for itself bigjoe is the best

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Huh?


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