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Superfluous Man 11-05-2007 07:57 PM

5/10: Is 3-bet shoving here pure spew?
 
Villain in this hand is regular who plays pretty tight for 6m (19/14) but is v.v. good in my opinion. He uses his tight image well, and has run a couple successful bluffs on me in the past. I kind of suspect he's taking a stab at the pot, as I fire a lot of 2nd barrels here. A shove will fold out flush draws, straight draws, air, and one-pair hands like JJ or AQ that he's turning into a bluff. Obviously, I don't fold out trips or boats, and he miiiight look me up with AA/KK. Plus, I almost always have at least one out if called. So, stick it in?

Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $1,179.25
MP: $988
Hero (CO): $1,904.80
BTN: $1,849.75
SB: $985
BB: $181.70

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35</font>, BTN calls $35, 2 folds

Flop: ($85) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $60</font>, BTN calls $60

Turn: ($205) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $150</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $420</font>

hotbacon 11-05-2007 08:14 PM

Re: 5/10: Is 3-bet shoving here pure spew?
 
how often does he float?
it's unlikely that he would turn a hand like 88 or smth into a bluff.
i dont really like 3betting here.

jfish 11-05-2007 08:30 PM

Re: 5/10: Is 3-bet shoving here pure spew?
 
you got outs.

Superfluous Man 11-05-2007 08:30 PM

Re: 5/10: Is 3-bet shoving here pure spew?
 
Villain isn't particularly floaty, and his pf call is kind of out of character; generally he would 3bet there.

Is shoving here even good from a range-merging perspective? Surely if I'm only 3-bet shoving trips+ here I'm losing value when I do have big hands like that, and missing out on bluff opportunities as well...

Colombo 11-05-2007 08:39 PM

Re: 5/10: Is 3-bet shoving here pure spew?
 
I like this because he probably raises Tx a large % of the time on the flop.


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