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djk123 10-08-2007 12:31 PM

$200R AJ vs Colson
 
I think Colson views me as spewy. I stacked off with middle pair in a limped pot vs him earlier in the 100r. Also this hand happened just a few hands before the feature one.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t500/t1000
(Ante: t100)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t33354
UTG+1: t16620
MP1: t17413
MP2: t41346
CO: t14337
Button: t14035
SB: t64556
djk123: t27984

Pre-flop: (8 players) djk123 is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to t2600</font>, 3 folds, djk123 calls t1600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t4900)</font>.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t6500, 2 players)
djk123 checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t6500, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">djk123 bets t4000</font>, MP2 calls t4000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t10500)</font>.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t14500, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">djk123 bets t11000</font>, MP2 folds.
Uncalled bets: t11000 returned to djk123.

Results:
Final pot: t14500

Here's the actual hand

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t500/t1000
(Ante: t100)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t23515
UTG+1: t31154
MP1: t16720
MP2: t15213
CO: t45139
Button: t12835
SB: t71700
djk123: t36984

Pre-flop: (8 players) djk123 is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t2600</font>, 2 folds, djk123 calls t1600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t4900)</font>.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t6500, 2 players)
djk123 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t4000</font>, djk123 calls t4000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t10500)</font>.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t14500, 2 players)
djk123 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t10000</font>, djk123

Stacks seem awkward to 3 bet preflop since I wouldn't feel comfortable calling a shove. What about flop? Folding just seemed really weak. Turn?

betgo 10-08-2007 12:38 PM

Re: $200R AJ vs Colson
 
Preflop, I would general 3-bet and call a push.

On the flop, you don't have much, so I would probably fold, but I like a checkraise better than a call.

On the turn, I probably fold, but checkraise allin if you are brave.

Bikini Wax 10-08-2007 12:40 PM

Re: $200R AJ vs Colson
 
I 3bet or fold AJ in spots like this - fwiw i think you play way too much OOP... in this is a perfect example

Bikini Wax 10-08-2007 12:41 PM

Re: $200R AJ vs Colson
 
[ QUOTE ]
Preflop, I would general 3-bet and call a push.

On the flop, you don't have much, so I would probably fold, but I like a checkraise better than a call.

On the turn, I probably fold, but checkraise allin if you are brave.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with DJK in the sense that the stacks are awkward for 3bet/call

Requin 10-08-2007 12:50 PM

Re: $200R AJ vs Colson
 
flop is really bad
easy turn lead.

shaundeeb 10-08-2007 01:26 PM

Re: $200R AJ vs Colson
 
Colson is better then all of us combined fold PF he will own your soul.

I don't mind 3bet calling here vs him esp if you've been yourself lately as you always are. When you make it 8500 he thinks he can make you fold enough to 4bet a decent part of his range.

uclabruinz 10-08-2007 01:37 PM

Re: $200R AJ vs Colson
 
Preflop call is good.

Flop, just release most of the time and move on, although mixing in a c/raise every once and awhile is good. Hate the call though. As played, bet turn.

NoahSD 10-08-2007 02:32 PM

Re: $200R AJ vs Colson
 
Def 3-bet/call pre.

Just fold the flop.

Post the hand where you stacked off with middle pair in a limped pot.

Pudge714 10-08-2007 02:59 PM

Re: $200R AJ vs Colson
 
djk,
If he thinks you are spewy he excepts you to shove random high diamonds and stuff. Fold flop and turn. Preflop is fine, fold pre is really bad imo.

djk123 10-08-2007 03:11 PM

Re: $200R AJ vs Colson
 
[ QUOTE ]
Def 3-bet/call pre.

Just fold the flop.

Post the hand where you stacked off with middle pair in a limped pot.

[/ QUOTE ]

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t5075
UTG+1: t7128
MP1: t7190
MP2: t8225
MP3: t9276
djk123: t6917
Button: t6124
SB: t7868
BB: t14167

Pre-flop: (9 players) djk123 is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t300)</font>, MP1 calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t500)</font>, 2 folds, djk123 calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t700)</font>, Button folds, SB calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t900)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t1000, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">djk123 bets t600</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t2400</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">djk123 raises all-in t6717</font>, SB calls t4317 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t10117)</font>.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t14434, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t14434)


River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t14434, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t14434)


Results:
Final pot: t14434


I thought his raise size didn't make sense for anything but a draw. Oops.


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