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mikeysong 11-08-2007 10:21 AM

linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
Villain is 26/19/1

bet sizing fine? what do you do if villain cr's AI?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $80
CO: $1082.85
Hero: $1520.30
SB: $465.10
BB: $415.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $16</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($38, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $26</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $80</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($198, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $150</font>, CO calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($498, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $388</font>

If villain cr's AI, it will be 448 more

whorasaurus 11-08-2007 10:34 AM

Re: linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
I think i lose my nerve on this river and check it down...I doubt TT/JJ is going to call this bet anyway, and i think that's your best chance at getting value here.

as played, if he shoves you gotta call.

Suwalski 11-08-2007 11:02 AM

Re: linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
i mean is river bet a bluff? i just check behind.

mikeysong 11-08-2007 11:08 AM

Re: linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
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i mean is river bet a bluff? i just check behind.

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erm no?

creative 11-08-2007 11:11 AM

Re: linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
dont like a river bet here

Melchiades 11-08-2007 11:11 AM

Re: linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
Only reason to bet this river is if you think he will turn an overpair into a bluff and CR. Can't see that happening though since you could easily have a flush.

What is he supposed to put you on after flop/turn combo that he beats once diamonds get there, that can make him call with an overpair? Looks like a check behind on the river to me. We have the best hand, but he isn't calling a bet with worse I think.

Melchiades 11-08-2007 11:13 AM

Re: linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
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i mean is river bet a bluff? i just check behind.

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erm no?

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Ok. What worse hands can possibly call this riverbet after the board came out the way it did? Unless you have some psycho image I don't see him calling with worse, ever.

mikeysong 11-08-2007 02:38 PM

Re: linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
i'm sorry, I should've described myself as a laggy player, probably 28/21ish who likes to float a decent amt of flops, dry or drawy. Don't think my image is maniacal though, just lag

is that a bad enough image to bet river or because of the diamond should I be checking behind? I'm not afraid of 89 as I can't imagine someone calling 2 bets w/tp 8 kicker with deep stacks. I figure the way he's playing he has overpair as a set would cr AI turn or something. Same w/fd - although it's possible he could be playing it passively.

also, had this been a non diamond river, then would a bet be good?


Lucky 11-08-2007 02:52 PM

Re: linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
river bet is mandatory. He'll call down with his overpair. If you bet 300-350 and get raised, fold.

This guy isnt turning his overpair into bluff, he wants to to showdown imo

JackAll 11-08-2007 02:54 PM

Re: linecheck 2/4nl deep with 2p
 
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i mean is river bet a bluff? i just check behind.

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Umm ... wtf????

A set would get it in before the river ALOT.
Also, there are almost no combinations of sets when we have 2-pr.

Not value betting this river seems like a crime. I'm not sure of the amount though. Bigger looks more bluffy, so I think that is actually better - but not totally sure about that bit.


Anyone saying check behind on the river, please explain why because I don't get it - particularly when we have 2pr which criples their set range and a str8 and flush are unlikely considering they have to call a HUGE bet on the turn there.


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