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PBJaxx 05-10-2007 12:50 AM

5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
Villain is 32/12/2 fish. I haven't seen him get too out of line over ~400 hands. This is the 2nd time I have seen him 3bet. Hero is running at 22/18, and I know he doesn't respect my cbets, FWIW.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
UTG ($891.25)
MP ($1082.75)
Hero ($1717.85)
Button ($207)
SB ($1017)
BB ($1732.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $45</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $40, <font color="#666666"> <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $190</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $145, SB folds.

Flop: ($435) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $435</font>, Hero calls $435.

Turn: ($1305) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($1305) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $350</font>

As for preflop, I would often 4bet, but this guy is not crazy preflop, and I doubt he knows what a squeeze is. I am 99.9% sure this guy never C/Rs me on the river as a bluff, so I am folding if he shoves.

FionnMac 05-10-2007 12:57 AM

Re: 5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
I don't think this is that thin since you've played the hand so passively (though correct, so far). I'd bet like $650 on the river, if he's a fish i doubt he's folding QQ.

ArturiusX 05-10-2007 12:59 AM

Re: 5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
Make it 700 instead.

soah 05-10-2007 12:59 AM

Re: 5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
If he's never out of line or squeezing then I'd just fold to him pf

but given how the hand played out I don't see how a bet is thin at all, although it illustrates why AK pretty much sucks for implied odds

PBJaxx 05-10-2007 01:04 AM

Re: 5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
TBH, I don't think he calls a larger bet with QQ here. Villain is a weird animal, and I don't know if I have ever seen him call a largish river bet.

I may not have a good enough read on the river to make that judgement, though.

PBJaxx 05-10-2007 01:04 AM

Re: 5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
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it illustrates why AK pretty much sucks for implied odds

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Absolutely.

KingGordy 05-10-2007 01:06 AM

Re: 5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
I like the way you played this OP, including the river bet sizing.

ikestoys 05-10-2007 01:09 AM

Re: 5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
I'm not so sure, if villain is any good, your hand is face up. If you can get him to call with QQ congrats...

PBJaxx 05-10-2007 01:11 AM

Re: 5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
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I'm not so sure, if villain is any good, your hand is face up. If you can get him to call with QQ congrats...

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I agree that my hand is face up. Villain is definitely not good, but my line is VERY transparent, and that is why I think the bet is thin. Do you bet larger or check behind here?

ikestoys 05-10-2007 01:13 AM

Re: 5/10 - AK 170BB Deep - Thin riv value bet
 
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I'm not so sure, if villain is any good, your hand is face up. If you can get him to call with QQ congrats...

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I agree that my hand is face up. Villain is definitely not good, but my line is VERY transparent, and that is why I think the bet is thin. Do you bet larger or check behind here?

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As you say its pretty villain dep, I think its ok against this guy, but in general bleh.


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