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CAPSLOCKFTW 10-16-2007 04:44 PM

0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
I've noticed villain actually folding to reraises the two times he's been reraised. He also seems to fold a decent amount to c-bets.

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Button: $111.50
Hero: $101.80
BB: $101.52

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $3.5</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $9.98</font>, BB calls, Button folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($30.46, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($30.46, 2 players)
Hero?

chucky 10-16-2007 04:53 PM

Re: 0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
Why did you check the turn? check/call river if guy has any bluff in him. value bet if he is a station.

Spewie 10-17-2007 04:37 AM

Re: 0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
Bet less than pot (1/2 pot maybe) on turn to allow villain to call with flush/straight draws.
I think that KKXX would have raised on the flop with all the draws out there and K7XX would probably have folded.
KQXX is unlikely since you hold QQXX.

As played, value bet 1/2 pot river and hope villain have JTXX. Villain would probably bet with trip K on turn so you probably don't need to worry about Kings full.

GoldenIP 10-17-2007 09:45 AM

Re: 0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
Agree that Ks full would have potted flop. Thus, 1/2 to full pot river. Pretty much what Spewie said.

TimberBee 10-17-2007 09:51 AM

Re: 0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
I agree with the above. I think 15-20 on the turn, as played, 15-20 on the river. Fold to a raise obv though.

CrushinFelt 10-17-2007 11:08 AM

Re: 0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
No matter what you do you look like someone with a made hand (full house/quads/JT), so I don't really seeing you getting anything here from a decent player (or one like you'vedescribed). Bet however much you want to be able to bet in order to bluff down the road. 2/3 pot is usually about right so that the next time you take this line and don't have the made hand you can do 2/3 pot and hopefully take it down.

This hand becomes more metagame related since our hand looks made at this point.

iggymcfly 10-17-2007 04:52 PM

Re: 0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
I think checking the turn's fine here since a bet just scares off the draws and anything that we beat. If you're worried about metagame, just make sure you bet the turn with KQ, K7, and Kx.

On the river, I'd say 15-19's the correct amount. 20 might scare someone off, but for $18, a straight's going to be calling a lot.

Ribbo 10-17-2007 06:19 PM

Re: 0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
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Why did you check the turn? check/call river if guy has any bluff in him. value bet if he is a station.

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Checking the turn is awesome and what I would do.

OrrLives 10-17-2007 06:28 PM

Re: 0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
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Checking the turn is awesome and what I would do.

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(this is spewie)
Care to explain why?

Ribbo 10-17-2007 07:30 PM

Re: 0.5/1 Underfull river line
 
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Checking the turn is awesome and what I would do.

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(this is spewie)
Care to explain why?

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To let opponent catch up with his 0 out draw.


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