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ConstantineX 05-15-2007 06:51 AM

SCARY Legislation
 
Crazy IP Legislation

Reading this this morning, I was literally chilled. It's like it comes straight from the mouth of the recording industry, almost. Shockingly, the proposed legislation will attempt to make "attempted" copyright infrigement criminal and punishable with heavy fines, with a maximum of a LIFE sentence if fully carried out. Indeed, the law comes with other great police incentives like endowing them with the power of asset forfeiture of any equipment used to violate that copyright. Oh, and the best part? After seizing imported or exported items that violate these new copyright rules, Homeland Security would be required to alert the RIAA.




Maybe Canis IS right.



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govman6767 05-15-2007 06:57 AM

Re: SCARY Legislation
 
[ QUOTE ]
Crazy IP Legislation

Reading this this morning, I was literally chilled. It's like it comes straight from the mouth of the recording industry, almost. Shockingly, the proposed legislation will attempt to make "attempted" copyright infrigement criminal and punishable with heavy fines, with a maximum of a LIFE sentence if fully carried out. Indeed, the law comes with other great police incentives like endowing them with the power of asset forfeiture of any equipment used to violate that copyright. Oh, and the best part? After seizing imported or exported items that violate these new copyright rules, Homeland Security would be required to alert the RIAA.




Maybe Canis IS right.




If this get's passes then I retract everything I said in the Facist thread.

bobman0330 05-15-2007 07:07 AM

Re: SCARY Legislation
 
This law may or may not be excessive, but could you explain why you find it "chilling"?

tomdemaine 05-15-2007 10:30 AM

Re: SCARY Legislation
 
Although on the plus side [censored] like this is pretty much the only thing that'll wake up the apathetic (but music copying) teenager to the scariness of the state and maybe we'll see a sea change.

clowntable 05-15-2007 12:47 PM

Re: SCARY Legislation
 
I'm not an expert but isn't there something like "cruel and unusual punishment"?
The chilling part is the excessiveness and especially the part about attempted infridgement.
But I guess it could be worse. Next step is "it is now a crime to think about IP infridgement"

iron81 05-15-2007 01:04 PM

Re: SCARY Legislation
 
Relax guys, this is DOA in Congress. The Digital Millenium Copyright Act that Congress passed is pretty tough already. Combine this with this not being a priority for the Dems and normal partisan bickering and Gonzalez has no shot.

Also, the provision for a life sentence only applies if someone dies as a result. I dunno why normal manslaughter laws wouldn't apply, but whatever.

hmkpoker 05-15-2007 04:12 PM

Re: SCARY Legislation
 
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Crazy IP Legislation

Reading this this morning, I was literally chilled. It's like it comes straight from the mouth of the recording industry, almost. Shockingly, the proposed legislation will attempt to make "attempted" copyright infrigement criminal and punishable with heavy fines, with a maximum of a LIFE sentence if fully carried out. Indeed, the law comes with other great police incentives like endowing them with the power of asset forfeiture of any equipment used to violate that copyright. Oh, and the best part? After seizing imported or exported items that violate these new copyright rules, Homeland Security would be required to alert the RIAA.




Maybe Canis IS right.




If this get's passes then I retract everything I said in the Facist thread.

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No, don't retract, stay the course! Keep fighting for freedom!

Misfire 05-15-2007 05:19 PM

Re: SCARY Legislation
 
The idea of any punishment other than monetary damages for IP infringement is chilling. Especially when there are alternatives for protecting copyrights like Microsoft is doing with its authentication--if you want to upgrade, you concent to a verification check. If they detect a pirated copy, they simply offer to sell you a license, which you can decline and go about your business. No lawsuits, no guns, essentially no RIAA anti-consumer tactics.

BCPVP 05-15-2007 05:32 PM

Re: SCARY Legislation
 
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Also, the provision for a life sentence only applies if someone dies as a result. I dunno why normal manslaughter laws wouldn't apply, but whatever.

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How could anyone die as a result of piracy of copyrighted material?

edit- I kant spel.

iron81 05-15-2007 06:14 PM

Re: SCARY Legislation
 
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How could anyone die as a result of piracy of copyrighted material?

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The example cited by the DOJ in the article is hospital equipment with buggy, pirated software. But since that is mind blowingly retarded, I suspect Gonzalez is pitching that so people like Constantine would say "ZOMG! life sentence for piracy!!" and everyone else would be extra careful to not download music to avoid dying in prison.

But yeah, prison time for pirating music for personal use is extreme.


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