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HighCardSeven 11-15-2007 11:38 AM

NL25 KK
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($26.85)
Button ($13.90)
SB ($16)
BB ($24.30)
Hero ($29)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, MP calls $11.

Flop: ($28.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???

MP was 45/28 after 29 hands. I cant believe that he calls my 4bet preflop. Without an ace I would push every flop. But the flop scared me because of the Ace and I think if I push only better hands will call. What should I do? Check/Call to induce a bluff? Check/fold is to weak, right? Or just push allin without a second thought?

stillnaive 11-15-2007 11:40 AM

Re: NL25 KK
 
You're pot committed with that raise. Push and pray, IMO.

herbstl 11-15-2007 11:42 AM

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You're pot committed with that raise. Push and pray, IMO.

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FreddyT87 11-15-2007 11:42 AM

Re: NL25 KK
 
You can not check/call to induce a bluff. If either villain or hero is betting, he is committed. The only hand you're afraid of here is AK. I lead this flop All-In. But I'd push all-in preflop as well, because you're committed if you're 4-bet is called anyways.

kylephilly 11-15-2007 11:47 AM

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You're pot committed with that raise. Push and pray, IMO.

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Milky 11-15-2007 12:04 PM

Re: NL25 KK
 
Uh, why not just check/call or push turn if it checks through. You're either way ahead or way behind... and if you push flop he's probably folding all the hands you beat (JJ/QQ) and calling with AK/AQ (assuming he calls your big raise pf w/AQ). If you check he may push with the hands you beat and if he checks through and you push turn he may look you up thinking you're bluffing.

ama0330 11-15-2007 12:11 PM

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he's probably folding all the hands you beat (JJ/QQ)

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Yeah but you're not getting any more money out of these hands anyway, he never pushes with those hands on the flop either

aaharty 11-15-2007 12:11 PM

Re: NL25 KK
 
definitely agree with milky, one of your main aims is to make your opponents make mistakes..by pushing you don't allow him to make the mistake (by pushing worse hands) whereas the check allows him this chance..(kinda a rehash of milkys post but didnt wanna just say 'i agree')

aaharty 11-15-2007 12:12 PM

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Yeah but you're not getting any more money out of these hands anyway, he never pushes with those hands on the flop either

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you really dont think at NL25 JJ/QQ pushes this flop??

FreddyT87 11-15-2007 12:12 PM

Re: NL25 KK
 
you check the flop, he checks behind. a heart comes up. what do you do?


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