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Gildwulf 11-07-2007 10:30 AM

facebook rolls out Plan B
 
I was always uneasy about the facebook terms of service, which allows them to own and sell any information you put on there.

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They are injecting ads into personal conversations, so it could be something like 'hey hope you had a good time at the beach...REMEMBER TO BUY MEGACORP SUNBLOCK...tell Jenny I said hi"

Also, remember how they own all your pictures? They are selling them to companies to use in ads:

"For example, if a friend has booked a vacation on Travelocity, the online travel agency will be able to display the friend's photo as part of a "social ad" to entice the user to buy flights and hotel stays. Advertisers can similarly have their pitches appear when friends review restaurants and buy books or DVDs."

Companies are now going to be making facebook pages and advertising based on targetted friend groups.

Etc, etc.

ahnuld 11-07-2007 10:31 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
does setting things to private change anything? and this wont really matter. some hippies will protest but most of us are too hooked to change

Wilpro 11-07-2007 10:35 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Thanks for the heads up, facebook account promptly deleted.

kylephilly 11-07-2007 10:35 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Plus people who are facebook usually are looking for attention and therefore won't mind being featured in these lame ads.

Unfortunately I think 90% of these people won't give a [censored].

Gildwulf 11-07-2007 10:56 AM

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exactly, why do you think they waited this long for their insanely evil plan?

I haven't decided yet but first thing is first...all pics are being removed

kkcountry 11-07-2007 11:09 AM

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http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/phot...56063_1507.jpg

are there any bigger pics of these social ads?

kkcountry 11-07-2007 11:10 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
oh and i can't wait for the "kkcountry loves the smooth taste of Pabst's Blue Ribbon" ad with a pic of me double fisting them.

KhalynYohrk 11-07-2007 11:12 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Screw the facebook nazis they have no respect for the people that made them rich.

Gildwulf 11-07-2007 11:12 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
my new facebook pic

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ACEBOOKPIC.jpg

spread the news, maybe we can fight this thing

Labarde 11-07-2007 11:13 AM

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my new facebook pic

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ACEBOOKPIC.jpg

spread the news, maybe we can fight this thing

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can i use that pic in my mspaint competition thingy?

XXXNoahXXX 11-07-2007 11:14 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
gild,

targeted.

otherwise A+.

bigt2k4 11-07-2007 11:14 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
I didn't opt in to that additonal thing, does that mean I'm ok?

Gildwulf 11-07-2007 11:19 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
bleh, i've been living in canada so long I keep adding extra vowels and letters to everything

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...CEBOOKPIC2.jpg

Gildwulf 11-07-2007 11:20 AM

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I didn't opt in to that additonal thing, does that mean I'm ok?

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any picture or video you add you have to agree that it meets the terms of use, which owns your soul.

I don't post any pics, but my gf posts entire albums and lots of my friends post pics of me so I basically have no control over that unless I ask them to take it down.

My best friend is also promoting his music on facebook...and facebook owns all his videos now, I'm pretty sure.

En Passant 11-07-2007 11:28 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Just curious, does myspace have the same policy?

Subfallen 11-07-2007 11:36 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Well Zuckerberg convinced Microsoft to value fb at $15B or something like that. Clearly he wasn't selling them the status quo.

AE6 11-07-2007 11:50 AM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
i dont really understand what's so bad about targeted marketing. wouldnt you rather see ads for products you have an actual interest in buying?

personal privacy is so 2000

Gildwulf 11-07-2007 11:51 AM

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i dont really understand what's so bad about targeted marketing. wouldnt you rather see ads for products you have an actual interest in buying?

personal privacy is so 2000

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not in the middle of an email from my girlfriend

kkcountry 11-07-2007 11:54 AM

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i dont really understand what's so bad about targeted marketing. wouldnt you rather see ads for products you have an actual interest in buying?

personal privacy is so 2000

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not in the middle of an email from my girlfriend

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love letters written on papyrus sealed with a kiss ftw

Dave D 11-07-2007 12:04 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Does anyone actually send messages through facebook anyway?

If I do, it's to tell some random broad she's hot cuz I'm crunked.

ianisakson 11-07-2007 12:08 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
this is scary, but there is nothing I can do because most of my friends have tons of pictures of me on there. I might as well start posting my noodz on there.

kylephilly 11-07-2007 12:08 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Gildwulf,

Where do you want to go out to dinner tonight? How about [ad]the Blue Oyster, where guys over 21 eat and drink for half price and every Wednesday is free leather vest night![/ad] or we could just go to the usual spot.

I love you darling.

XOXOXO
Gildwulf's tang

Gildwulf 11-07-2007 12:10 PM

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Does anyone actually send messages through facebook anyway?

If I do, it's to tell some random broad she's hot cuz I'm crunked.

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do you post on people's walls? 99.99999% of people on facebook do

AE6 11-07-2007 12:12 PM

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Does anyone actually send messages through facebook anyway?

If I do, it's to tell some random broad she's hot cuz I'm crunked.

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do you post on people's walls? 99.99999% of people on facebook do

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uhhhh pretty positive they're not integrating advertisements into wall posts

AquaSwing 11-07-2007 12:24 PM

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So this is what I should expect?

"i cant wait to see u this weekend. i luv those red panties u bought 4 me. BE SURE TO USE TROJAN BRANED CONDOMS. omg ur gonna get so laid!!!@"

Sweet. I'll make sure all of my pictures have some bare ass in them. BTW, where are the royalities from them making money off your image?

THEOSU 11-07-2007 12:25 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
gild,

does this mean that facebook now has the rights to the entire nlsoldier/fluffpop dramabomb?

ahnuld 11-07-2007 01:07 PM

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gild,

does this mean that facebook now has the rights to the entire nlsoldier/fluffpop dramabomb?

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what dramabomb?

bustowithnobra 11-07-2007 01:07 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Uhh, well, this is serious biz. The majority of facebooks members probably didn't know their pictures were going to be used by facebook in this manner, and unless facebooks terms of service, clearly, convincingly and most of all BOLDY stated these terms, I think there is a strong argument to fight it. Reason being, that for most contracts to be valid, both parties must know what they are agreeing to, and in a case like facebook, it can be easily proven that most people did not belive they were signing up for that. Because of fraud, and the era of standardization where a consumer expects to be signing a certain contract with certain terms, this is no longer and era of, you signed it you agreed to it.

I think this is a great opportunity- if facebook decides to pursue its plans- for another website to surface like facebook that previously did not have an opportunity.

felix83 11-07-2007 01:43 PM

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Uhh, well, this is serious biz. The majority of facebooks members probably didn't know their pictures were going to be used by facebook in this manner, and unless facebooks terms of service, clearly, convincingly and most of all BOLDY stated these terms, I think there is a strong argument to fight it. Reason being, that for most contracts to be valid, both parties must know what they are agreeing to, and in a case like facebook, it can be easily proven that most people did not belive they were signing up for that. Because of fraud, and the era of standardization where a consumer expects to be signing a certain contract with certain terms, this is no longer and era of, you signed it you agreed to it.

I think this is a great opportunity- if facebook decides to pursue its plans- for another website to surface like facebook that previously did not have an opportunity.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...et-proof-1.jpg

Thank god 2p2 is on the case. ZOMG LAWZ

PITTM 12-01-2007 01:10 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
update.

Himself 12-01-2007 01:11 PM

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update.

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victory

TheAftermath 12-01-2007 01:15 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
So who do we have to thank for this turnaround? BBV?

Dan Terra 12-01-2007 01:30 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
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my new facebook pic

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ACEBOOKPIC.jpg

spread the news, maybe we can fight this thing

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man that looks just like you too how fitting

EWS87 12-01-2007 01:30 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
lol i got pwned by this thread so bad...i read the first few posts and deleted all my pics, erased my whole profile and deleted all my friends then deactivated my account...then clicked back on the thread and read the whole thing

im def too lazy to reactivate i still think theyll eventually sell our info so i guess im glad im out

PITTM 12-01-2007 01:31 PM

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So who do we have to thank for this turnaround? BBV?

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me. youre welcome.

kkcountry 12-01-2007 02:01 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
i feel dirty bc moveon.org was on our "side" here

noncents 12-01-2007 02:37 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Not a lawyer but what if as a solution to the friends posting photos/videos of you problem you clearly state that any photos etc containing you that others have taken are allowed to be used but their use is non-transferable, therefore facebook cannot put them in ads or whatever.

ghostface 12-01-2007 02:38 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
you have to agree to THEIR terms to use the site ldo

noncents 12-01-2007 02:49 PM

Re: facebook rolls out Plan B
 
Yes I know that. However no one can give permission for someone else. So while any photos of me are fair game, photos of my friends shouldn't be.

Except I would assume by default they are as when you upload, you agree you have consent to do so etc...

However, if my friend only grants consent to me to display the media and declares the consent nontransferable, facebook cannot touch it.

no?

ghostface 12-01-2007 02:50 PM

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by default they are as when you upload, you agree you have consent to do so

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