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Aquadougs 11-28-2007 09:43 AM

NL50: TAG limpcalls my raise OOP and calls my cbet
 
Villain: 21/15/0 (46)

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $101.92
CO: $102.75
Hero (BTN): $49.25
SB: $58.48
BB: $37.10
UTG: $38.64

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.25</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $3.75

Flop: ($11.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.50</font>, CO calls $8.50

Turn: ($28.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero...


I reasoned that his range may consisted of about 50% set, 25% draws and 25% pairs, so i checked. What do you think?

creamfillin 11-28-2007 09:47 AM

Re: NL50: TAG limpcalls my raise OOP and calls my cbet
 
What are you talking about limp calling? He raised didn't he? I pretty sure that doesn't mean he limped. Bet this turn and plan on getting the rest in.

deaders 11-28-2007 09:50 AM

Re: NL50: TAG limpcalls my raise OOP and calls my cbet
 
How do you figure that range? There is really only one draw, a set is raising nearly always on the flop. Bet turn for value, let him call with worse.

Nick Royale 11-28-2007 09:50 AM

Re: NL50: TAG limpcalls my raise OOP and calls my cbet
 
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Bet this turn and plan on getting the rest in.

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2nd

jasonfish11 11-28-2007 09:52 AM

Re: NL50: TAG limpcalls my raise OOP and calls my cbet
 
Why is a set almost always raising on that flop? The people I play think slowplaying is the way you play deep stack poker. There are nearly no draws for a set to worry about. I would say a set raises this flop 50-60% of the time and cr the turn nearly 100% of the time.

doppelganger 11-28-2007 09:52 AM

Re: NL50: TAG limpcalls my raise OOP and calls my cbet
 
I think based on combos alone he's got AJ or a non-set PP far more often than a set on this board. Where are you getting your 50% estimate?

Just bet the turn, no reason to think we're beat here yet and we'll get value from jacks. It's a fairly safe board so I'll go to about $15 and see what he does, most likely calling a push.

Any particular reason you're reading this guy as a TAG over 46 hands with no aggression in his stats?

Lego05 11-28-2007 11:23 AM

Re: NL50: TAG limpcalls my raise OOP and calls my cbet
 
I agree that sets are not nearly a veyr big part of his range, however, I likely check the turn here. The reason is against QQ and AJ I expect he'll usually bet the river after I check the turn and then call my shove anyway. And I think checking behind on the turn is more likely to get greater value out of mostly 77-TT but also possibly any nonpaired cards that he might now bluff on the river (specifically AK/AQ.)

Aquadougs 11-28-2007 03:45 PM

Re: NL50: TAG limpcalls my raise OOP and calls my cbet
 
Thank you for the answers!

I meant raised preflop, and called my 3bet. Im not used to these NL50 numbers (I usually play NL100).

thursday 11-28-2007 04:03 PM

Re: NL50: TAG limpcalls my raise OOP and calls my cbet
 
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I agree that sets are not nearly a veyr big part of his range, however, I likely check the turn here. The reason is against QQ and AJ I expect he'll usually bet the river after I check the turn and then call my shove anyway. And I think checking behind on the turn is more likely to get greater value out of mostly 77-TT but also possibly any nonpaired cards that he might now bluff on the river (specifically AK/AQ.)

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DING. i like.


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