Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

I was all set to stop & go versus an LP raise, but it folds to the SB who raises 3x. I have little to no fold equity with a shove. Easy shove preflop? Just call and hope for a safe flop to shove?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t10677)
Button (t1380)
SB (t2562)
Hero (t1545)
UTG (t3030)
UTG+1 (t5485)
MP1 (t2580)
MP2 (t3083)
MP3 (t5618)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t450</font>, HERO ???

Re: Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

yes shove this everytime

Re: Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

You need to shove here. You have a little FE if the SB was stealing with trash, plus you probably have the best hand.

You need to chip up ASAP and this situation is about as good as they get.

Re: Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

U have 88 and 10BBs...u should not be trying to S&amp;G against an LP raise...just shove, you're ahead of their range and if u call, you'll be open-shoving the best hand most of the time (which defeats the purpose of the S&amp;G.) As played this is an easy shove over SB's raise.

Re: Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

Ahead of their range yes, but much of that range wants to see all 5 cards and a stop and go could make that difficult.

On this hand, I did push though since I didn't have the luxury of acting first anymore on a flop.

Re: Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

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Ahead of their range yes, but much of that range wants to see all 5 cards and a stop and go could make that difficult.

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You have 10BBs...u need to double-up, not win 350 chips here. Winning the pot is not the objective (or shouldn't be the objective here.) The objective is to get your money in with a hand that has a better winning percentage than LP raiser's range. Maybe u can S&amp;G with 44 here, but 88 has way too much equity. No offense, but an S&amp;G w/88 here is just FPS, and def not the most EV+ way to play the hand. Please don't wait for a "better spot"...unless i'm playing in the tourney [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Re: Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

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You need to shove here. You have a little FE if the SB was stealing with trash, plus you probably have the best hand.

You need to chip up ASAP and this situation is about as good as they get.

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Re: Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

Easy push... Against standard players you should be doing this with 44+; ATo, A8s, KJo, KTs, QJo and JTs

Re: Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

Why are we discussing a Stop'n'go here? Villain raised from SB not late pos, making him first to act. The S&amp;G is not possible here.

@ topic: shove.

Re: Stars 20/180 - 88 in BB w/10BB\'s... BvB
 

get those chips in helmuth style