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It's not really on the "circuit" but it's not a daily either, so I posted here.

Any word on this? Its starting after Thanksgiving at the Venetian, and it's all big buy-ins.

Anyone ever heard of the National Poker League? After the last charity disaster thing it's looking like Venetian is eager to put on whatever stepchild tournament that comes along.

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The NPL has had a few tournaments held around the world (Paris, UK, Australia), they've supposedly had a deal with the INHD network, Superstation WGN and some CBS stations and other TV outlets. They had a series of tournaments last year that were broadcast on INHD last year. More info can be found over at www.nplworldpoker.com .

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A poker tournament in Vegas? Crazy!

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The NPL has had a few tournaments held around the world (Paris, UK, Australia), they've supposedly had a deal with the INHD network, Superstation WGN and some CBS stations and other TV outlets. They had a series of tournaments last year that were broadcast on INHD last year. More info can be found over at www.nplworldpoker.com .

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Yeah, their ads are big on pimping the tv coverage, I guess to bring in the "sponsored" players.

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This is going to be running at the same time as the beginning of the Five Diamond at the Bellagio. Anyone in the know have any predictions as to the effect on turnout at the Bellagio of this series at the Venetian?

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This is going to be running at the same time as the beginning of the Five Diamond at the Bellagio. Anyone in the know have any predictions as to the effect on turnout at the Bellagio of this series at the Venetian?

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Anybody going to be at the NPL Open at the Venetian for the pre-lims, $5k or $15k Main Events?

I will be arriving in Vegas this Sat Nov. 24th and staying through the Bellagio 5D events as well.

Does anyone have the STRUCTURE sheet/link for the NPL Open Events at the Venetian?

Thanks guys,
Stephen [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

EDIT: I just saw the link above...as they must have just posted the structure...as it wasnt on their site last week
Thanks!

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The first $2500 event in this started yesterday. Anyone play in it and/or know how many players it attracted?

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How lame. So it's safe to say that it doesn't appear to be much of a threat to the Five Diamond. Thanks for the response.

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I played in it yesterday(knocked out 15th)...i think the total was 61.They paid 5 places,when the TV table actually called for 6!

It was switched late in the tourney,as I am assuming not to have the embarassing situation of a final tablist NOT getting paid...LOL?

Today I think there less than 50 runners.I passed,and will wait for the B events to start tomm

What a joke of a turnout

Stephen

entertainme: I have no idea why UBB Code isn't working in this post?

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I agree. I went to play a satellite game on Saturday & there were only 14 players... Sad.

I will be playing the WPT at Bellagio starting tomorrow. Looks like much better action- and been seeing a lot of pros there over the past several days.

I think they picked a bad time to run the event when the WPT is in town at the same time.

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I played in it yesterday(knocked out 15th)...i think the total was 61.They paid 5 places,when the TV table actually called for 6!

It was switched late in the tourney,as I am assuming not to have the embarassing situation of a final tablist NOT getting paid...LOL?

Today I think there less than 50 runners.I passed,and will wait for the B events to start tomm

What a joke of a turnout

Stephen

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Think you had more too many quote things in there.

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47 today people say they are expecting max of 30 tommorow, paying 3 spots.

sounds like a failure

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The $5000 buy-in and the $15000 buy-in are scheduled to be 3-day events with featured TV tables on all 3-days.

The promoter has been telling everyone that he has a TV distribution deal with WGN Superstation (about 90 million U.S. TV households). However, he hasn't told anyone about the time slot yet. With a confirmed time slot, it is awfully difficult for prospective logo sponsors (i.e. dot-net poker "schools") to determine what a chest or baseball logo is worth.

I played a $1000 NPL Vegas Open event in June 2006 at Caesars, which only had TV coverage on MOJO HD (formerly INHD). The logo deal I got from FullTilt was reasonable, but was small because INHD only cleared 7 million U.S. TV households.

WGN Superstation is a major cable TV network that people know about because it carries the Cubs, White Sox, and the NBA Bulls.

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The logo deal I got from FullTilt was reasonable, but was small

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esplain reasonable and small plz....curious as to what FTP will actually give players for sponsorship

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esplain reasonable and small plz....curious as to what FTP will actually give players for sponsorship

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The rule of thumb to estimate the value of a single-event logo deal in which a player is only paid if he/she were to make a TV table:

For every 30 seconds of logo exposure on TV in a first world TV market such as the U.S., the logo exposure is worth $20 for every 1000 viewers in a targeted demographic. In the case of poker, the targeted demographic consists of viewers between ages 18 and 49 inclusive.

Using the WSOP on ESPN as an example:

Average # of viewers in the U.S. per episode in the ages 18-49 demographic: 600,000

Logo exposure time: 30 seconds (or 1 "impression")

600,000 targeted viewers x $20/1000 targeted viewers per impression x 1 impression = $12,000

A resonable logo fee from an online poker "school" for WSOP on ESPN would be on the order of $10,000, with bonuses for finishing 3rd, 2nd and 1st as those players will generate additional logo "impressions" on TV.

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NPL Vegas Open I from last year only draws on the order of 50000 to 60000 viewers in the targeted 18-49 demographic because MOJO HD (formerly INHD) clears less than 10% of the households compared to ESPN. The logo fees of course would be reduced in proportion to the size of the anticipated targeted audience.

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The logo deal I got from FullTilt was reasonable, but was small

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esplain reasonable and small plz....curious as to what FTP will actually give players for sponsorship

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they're offering 2500$ to nobodies to wear hats

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NPL president Nene Gonzales told me via email that the NPL Vegas Open will air in the 10pm PT/1am ET time slot on WGN Superstation (90 million US TV households) during the 2nd quarter of 2008.

I am assuming Sunday night (the same slot which was occupied by UBT blackjack).

I am 2 hours away from leaving my hotel room in Macau (now = Tuesday 12:22pm Las Vegas Time = Wednesday 4:22am Macau Time).

I will be at the Venetian in Las Vegas by Thursday morning to meet up with "Jerry" Yang, who will attempt the $500 supersatellite to try to win a seat into the $5000 buy-in event on Friday.

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I will be at the Venetian in Las Vegas by Thursday morning to meet up with "Jerry" Yang, who will attempt the $500 supersatellite to try to win a seat into the $5000 buy-in event on Friday.

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I will be at the Venetian in Las Vegas by Thursday morning to meet up with "Jerry" Yang, who will attempt the $500 supersatellite to try to win a seat into the $5000 buy-in event on Friday.

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Gl, "Jerry."

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i heard the tuesday event was canceled because 3 people showed up, can anyone confirm

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i heard the tuesday event was canceled because 3 people showed up, can anyone confirm

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Confirmed...I first heard it was actually 6 people while I was at the Bellagio ...but it was confirmed later to be three when I retured to the Venetian last night

Abosolutly ridiculous...I wonder if the LOW turnout with this NPL,has anything to do with the CEO tour fiasco fallout/association with the Venetian during the WSOP over the summer?

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They rescheduled todays tourney to start at 3pm with late signups until 5pm because of the Bellagio factor.

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The first $2500 event in this started yesterday. Anyone play in it and/or know how many players it attracted?

61 then 47 then 3; todays rescheduling at 3pm may help the numbers but they didnt get the information on Cardplayer.com as they had promised.....

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Pokerpages has the first two $2,500 tournaments as having 61 entrants each:

http://www.pokerpages.com/tournament/result19269.htm
http://www.pokerpages.com/tournament/result19270.htm

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Pokerpages has the first two $2,500 tournaments as having 61 entrants each:

http://www.pokerpages.com/tournament/result19269.htm
http://www.pokerpages.com/tournament/result19270.htm

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The second one is wrong There were 47 entrants and first was just over 40k second about 27k

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I'm just glad I'm not in vegas now cussing about this event.
What a flop!
Wonder how the deep stack in feb will do?

Anyone want to flame the venetian about the last two "tourneys" they've held?

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Deepstack III should do great.

If the Venetian wants to be featured on TV poker shows so bad, honestly, at this point, they should just out-bid South Point to be the location for HSP.

These last two attempts at lower-tier "televised tourneys" have done squat for them and only help to potentially hurt them.

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HSP doesn't provide much exposure for the casino. It always seems to be held in a suite, which could be anywhere, for all the viewer cares.

TV poker is on the downslide, but if Venetian really, really wants to be on tv, they should just bend over and bring in WPT.

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HSP doesn't provide much exposure for the casino. It always seems to be held in a suite, which could be anywhere, for all the viewer cares.

TV poker is on the downslide, but if Venetian really, really wants to be on tv, they should just bend over and bring in WPT.

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They want the WPT and will gladly spread their legs for it, but can't have it.

WPT is exclusive to MGM-Mirage properties in Vegas.

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They have a contract that handcuffs the WPT? I know MGM-Mirage is handcuffed.

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WPT has an exclusive deal with MGM Mirage in Las Vegas

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According to Shannon Shorr's blog, Wednesday's $2,500 event had 22 entrants, at 3pm they had 8 and had to wait to 4:30 to get going.