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augie_ 05-11-2007 11:46 AM

should i take this from a dealer??
 
the scene is a $500 MTT at Turning Stone. Of all of the casinos I've been to, TS has the best dealers. Except for this one...

The blinds are 50/75. UTG and MP1 limp, I raise to 400 (4 black chips) with JJ. the CO makes it 1300 (three black chips and two yellow chips), all fold to me. I start to think, and as I'm thinking the dealer pulls 300 in from me (leaving one black chip in front of me) and 300 from the CO (leaving two yellow 500 chips in front of him).

I notice the odd black chip sitting in front of me. I ask "what is this?" The dealer says "it's 900 to you." I say, "so I can put this in my stack?" She says, "only if you fold." I am and probably look confused. Then people from all over the table start yapping up and the dealer returns the chips to their original positions and says "900 more."

I continue to think and as I'm thinking, she starts explaining to me that she was pulling in the original bets and leaving the raise out there for me. I explain to her that I'm not stupid and I know what she was doing, but just having one chip in front of me after raising 4 was momentarily confusing.

A few hands go by and I shove an 1100 stack over two limpers and count and cut out all of my chips on the table. all fold to the 2nd limper who starts to think. while he's thinking, the dealer starts explaining to me, "see, now i'm going to take your 75 in, take his 75 in, and leave the raise out there for him to call."

I explain to the dealer again that I'm not stupid and I know what she was doing. Then I asked her why she was being so rude to me. Then she got a look on her face like my puppy when I catch her in the garbage or my roommate when I find out that he stole $10 from me.

"I wasn't being rude to you" she says. "I was just doing my job. I was pulling in the original bets and leaving the raise out there."

"No," I respond. "You're being very rude to me. I told you I know what's going on. You don't need to narrate every one of your actions to me. (After all, she didn't say anything during her bizarre action in my JJ hand.)

Then she looks to the old fart to my right and says, "Sirus, can you please explain to this young gentleman that I am not being sarcastic right now and how sarcastic I can actually be?"

I remind her that she's STILL DOING IT and that she's actually starting to insult my intelligence now. I say, "just stop being mean to me." She says, "oh don't worry, I'm not mean now, but I'm about to be mean in a second."

The reason for this post is because all of these conversations brought the game to a crawl. Other players at the table were getting very frustrated with me and the dealer.

So what should I do? Talk to the floor? Should I have even said anything? Of all of the people in the world, shouldn't casino dealers be the one person who is always nice to you?

Al_Capone_Junior 05-11-2007 11:54 AM

Re: should i take this from a dealer??
 
Sounds like you both need a good kick in the nuts. Square.

Al

AngusThermopyle 05-11-2007 11:56 AM

Re: should i take this from a dealer??
 
You took a small misunderstanding and turned it into a "This young punk knows Poker" ego trip.

You should have shut up and let it die.

But you couldn't.

GoAheadRiverMe 05-11-2007 11:57 AM

Re: should i take this from a dealer??
 
Sounds like you have a inferiority complex

psandman 05-11-2007 12:00 PM

Re: should i take this from a dealer??
 
First off the dealer screwed up in the first instance. She was lazy the correct way to pull in these bets is not to bring in $300 from each of you, but to bring 400 in. So she should have brought all your chips in and left 900 in front of the other player. (this would be accomplished by taking in on yellow chip f rom the other player and putting one of your blacks in front of the other player.)


Since there was confusion when she did this (caused by her doing it wrong) I don't think she was out of line to narrate her action. (when i bring in bets like this I like to announce what I am doing ---"Bringing in $400 from everybody - $900 to call).

Your reaction to that seems overblown to me and then the two of you just seem to be trying to the push the other. I think at this point you are as guilty as she is of escalating the situation. If this is the only problem you have had with her, i would let it go.

osmodion 05-11-2007 12:04 PM

Re: should i take this from a dealer??
 
I too would have been confused for a second if the dealer left 100 in front of me when facing a raise. I suppose she was assuming that you would need change, but I've never seen a dealer do that before. Whatever, that part is not a big deal.

It sounds like she was just trying to help someone she thought didn't know what was going on in the second hand, as opposed to intentionally rude. She probably thought she was trying to help, and that you were being rude to her. However, she should not have escalated it with the comment to Sirus. There was already a tense situation, and the dealer should have acted more professionally. I would have told the floor about the dealer, though I probably would have waited until a break so as not to completely piss off the rest of the table.

27offsuit 05-11-2007 12:49 PM

Re: should i take this from a dealer??
 
"Could you call the floor please?"

oddjob 05-11-2007 12:54 PM

Re: should i take this from a dealer??
 
are you always an ahole, or just when you play poker?

DeuceKicker 05-11-2007 12:58 PM

Re: should i take this from a dealer??
 
The blame should be split 60-40. I'm not sure who gets the 60.

Noo Yawk 05-11-2007 01:05 PM

Re: should i take this from a dealer??
 
[ QUOTE ]

I explain to her that I'm not stupid and I know what she was doing.....



I explain to the dealer again that I'm not stupid and I know what she was doing. Then I asked her why she was being so rude to me...

"No," I respond. "You're being very rude to me. I told you I know what's going on. You don't need to narrate every one of your actions to me...



I remind her that she's STILL DOING IT and that she's actually starting to insult my intelligence now. I say, "just stop being mean to me."


[/ QUOTE ]

Your comments turned a simple misunderstanding into a ridiculous waste of time.


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