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whodaman 10-14-2007 04:22 AM

AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
http://www.pocketfives.com/AB0A6FCE-...D3A99D2CC.aspx

ur2barredout 10-14-2007 04:25 AM

Re: AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
BBV what it do

whodaman 10-14-2007 04:30 AM

Re: AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
this is about as close to proof as you can get that potripper could see other players holecards

these hh include everyones hands at the table

10-14-2007 04:38 AM

Re: AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
Man, that's [censored] up!

EWS87 10-14-2007 05:09 AM

Re: AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
ive read about 20 hands so far and im not that convinced...he put alot of chips in twice before the river and if i could see everyones cards there is no way i would ever do that

Stage #896578317 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $20 - 2007-09-12 21:15:24.010 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($9875 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($10320 in chips)
Seat 6 - SCOTT_NZL ($9795 in chips)
Seat 7 - DZ00NUTS ($8452 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($9960 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($9970 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($9940 in chips)
Seat 2 - JOSIAHW ($7466 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($14152 in chips)
POTR0AST - Posts small blind $10
POKERME420 - Posts big blind $20
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [10d 3s]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [5s Js]
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [Ad 3c]
Dealt to JOSIAHW [7h 4d]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [10h 10c]
Dealt to POTR0AST [5d 3h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [8d Qh]
Dealt to SCOTT_NZL [8c 8h]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [9h Ah]
SCOTT_NZL - Calls $20
DZ00NUTS - Raises $60 to $60
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $160 to $160
POKERME420 - Folds
POTR0AST - Folds
SCOTT_NZL - Calls $140
DZ00NUTS - Calls $100
*** FLOP *** [7d 2d 4c]
SCOTT_NZL - Checks
DZ00NUTS - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $300
SCOTT_NZL - Raises $900 to $900
DZ00NUTS - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $2000 to $2300
SCOTT_NZL - Raises $4640 to $5540
POTRIPPER - All-In(Raise) $11692 to $13992
SCOTT_NZL - All-In $4095
POTRIPPER - returned ($4357) : not called
*** TURN *** [7d 2d 4c] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [7d 2d 4c 7c] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
POTRIPPER - Shows [10h 10c] (Two Pair, tens and sevens)
SCOTT_NZL - Shows [8c 8h] (Two Pair, eights and sevens)
POTRIPPER Collects $19780 from main pot

even if he only has two outs...why risk that when you can know you are good for sure on the river?



and here...

Stage #896551087 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $10 - 2007-09-12 21:07:06.007 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($9830 in chips)
Seat 6 - SCOTT_NZL ($9810 in chips)
Seat 7 - DZ00NUTS ($10000 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($9960 in chips)
Seat 2 - JOSIAHW ($10055 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($10390 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($9955 in chips)
POKERME420 - Posts small blind $5
SCOTT_NZL - Posts big blind $10
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to JOSIAHW [Ks Qh]
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [7s 4d]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [10d Js]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Qs 3h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [10c Jh]
Dealt to SCOTT_NZL [8d 3d]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [5d 8h]
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Folds
JOSIAHW - Raises $40 to $40
POTRIPPER - Calls $40
POTR0AST - Folds
SCOTT_NZL - Folds
POKERME420 - Calls $35
*** FLOP *** [Kd 9h Qd]
POKERME420 - Checks
JOSIAHW - Bets $50
Seat 4, RE-JOIN
POTRIPPER - Calls $50
POKERME420 - Raises $230 to $230
JOSIAHW - Calls $180
POTRIPPER - Calls $180
*** TURN *** [Kd 9h Qd] [8c]
POKERME420 - Bets $700
JOSIAHW - Calls $700
POTRIPPER - Raises $2740 to $2740
POKERME420 - All-In(Raise) $8860 to $9560
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Calls $6820
*** SHOW DOWN ***
*** RIVER *** [Kd 9h Qd 8c] [5h]
POTRIPPER - Shows [10d Js] (Straight, nine to king)
POKERME420 - Shows [10c Jh] (Straight, nine to king)
POTRIPPER Collects $10320 from main pot
POKERME420 Collects $10320 from main pot

if he knew...hed know he is chopping at best so why risk the guy with KQ hitting a full house this early...i gotta be honest...this is doing more to disprove it then anything ive seen yet

arcticfox 10-14-2007 05:16 AM

Re: AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
Because on both those hands there are a ton of cards that kill his action, better to get the money in with opponents drawing to 4 or 2 outs than have a scare card appear (flush or straight card) which kills his action. Also he covers in both hands so not risking tourney life.

Also on hand history he folds without limping/raising preflop just 7 times and every time one of the opponents had AA/KK/QQ, including one hand where he open folded KQ first to act with AA behind him (he has 95% VPIP and folds KQ, pretty unlikely). He plays as a maniac but never gets his money in behind. Think this is pretty damning.

DeathDonkey 10-14-2007 05:18 AM

Re: AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
EWS87: wow. I don't even know what to say. In the first hand he puts in 500 BBs (500!) with a weak overpair and its the best hand and his opponent has two outs and your analysis is "he couldn't have been cheating because he would have waited until the river". This is a 1k buyin tournament by the way. 500 BB's with tens there. 500.

In the second hand there is a flush draw available so a diamond on the river may kill his action, and he probably assumed the guy with KQ couldn't get away from it on the turn, so there was no danger in springing the trap there. This is ignoring the flop action where he just calls with the nuts knowing the other nuts are likely to raise it and he can keep KQ trapped in between.

-DeathDonkey

jono 10-14-2007 05:18 AM

Re: AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
EWS, your TT hand analysis is... lol

no offense but if you actually play poker, I'm about 100% sure you are weak-tight losing.

rothko 10-14-2007 06:06 AM

Re: AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
[ QUOTE ]
this is about as close to proof as you can get that potripper could see other players holecards

these hh include everyones hands at the table

[/ QUOTE ]

lol, this would've been awesome if you leveling.

cero_z 10-14-2007 06:07 AM

Re: AP superuser potripper HH xposted from zoo
 
Here's a perfect example of how this guy got caught. All he has to do is make a "hero call" with his Aces up, but he chooses to reraise all-in, a play no good player is going to make, presumably in the interest of not having to show his cards. Close to zero chance the nines will call, so there's nothing else to be gained by reraising. Put one more hand up there where he raised or folded on the river.

(Sick 3 bet on river with an ugly board for his hand)
Stage #896560143 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $10 - 2007-09-12 21:09:36.008 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 7 - DZ00NUTS ($9990 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($9960 in chips)
Seat 2 - JOSIAHW ($8935 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($11045 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($9955 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($10320 in chips)
Seat 6 - SCOTT_NZL ($9795 in chips)
DZ00NUTS - Posts small blind $5
BIGREDAK86 - Posts big blind $10
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [3d Ks]
Dealt to JOSIAHW [Kd 7d]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [Ac 5d]
Dealt to POTR0AST [6c Js]
Dealt to POKERME420 [5h 8s]
Dealt to SCOTT_NZL [10s 8d]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [9h 9d]
JOSIAHW - Calls $10
POTR0AST - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $40 to $40
POKERME420 - Folds
SCOTT_NZL - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Raises $95 to $100
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Calls $60
*** FLOP *** [10c 5c Ah]
DZ00NUTS - Bets $130
POTRIPPER - Calls $130
*** TURN *** [10c 5c Ah] [Jh]
DZ00NUTS - Bets $240
POTRIPPER - Calls $240
*** RIVER *** [10c 5c Ah Jh] [7c]
DZ00NUTS - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $399
DZ00NUTS - Raises $1068 to $1068
POTRIPPER - Raises $1737 to $2136
DZ00NUTS - Folds
POTRIPPER - returned ($1068) : not called


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