NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

villain is unknown, but this is a hand we played directly before the hand in question. this was like the 2nd hand for me at the table.
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HAND #2
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $17.35
UTG: $6.70
Hero (MP): $10
CO: $5.20
BTN: $10.55
SB: $10.70

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, CO calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.95) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.70</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9.60 and is All-In</font>, CO calls $3.40 and is All-In

Turn: ($10.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($10.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $10.55 Pot ($10.55 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$5.20 NET)
CO showed and LOST (-$5.20 NET)


the very next hand:

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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $16.85
SB: $7.10
Hero (BB): $10
UTG: $10.05
MP: $10.55
CO: $10.65

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.10, 3 folds, SB calls $0.05, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.60</font>, UTG calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.40</font>, UTG calls $1.40, SB folds

Turn: ($4.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.80</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $5.60</font>, Hero folds

Re: NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

You switched the hand numbers. And what was his hand the first time?

Re: NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

ugh sorry, it was just the order in which i pasted them into the converter. the first hand in op is the first hand i played w/ villain. in that hand he had 99.

Re: NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

Shove the turn on the last hand you posted with JJ. And bet more on the turn too. Unless you bet small to induce a raise, which you didn't. Don't fold.

Re: NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

he has 9x,TT, or a flush draw enough of the time? seems kinda unlikely considering my line/his line.

edited to add: turn bet size was supposed to be around 3/5 or 2/3 of the pot, it was a little small.

Re: NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

could i get some more feedback on this? does anyone like the fold?

fwiw, i folded because it didn't seem like i beat anything given his line. also, in the only other hand we had played together he coolered me, so it's not like i've shown him anything but good made hands. another factor i considered was that he had just built up his stack, so i felt like that tightened up his range a bit. if this is awful feel free to tell me, the hand happened near the end of a really crazy session (i won a 400bb pot, lost some in the 300bb range), so my thought process may have been retarded.



one thing that bothers me is that using my logic i would have to fold AA/KK/QQ [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]. in the moment, i didn't put 9xcc in his range so that makes me lean closer to a shove in retrospect.

Re: NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

(Not to be a nit, but the rules suggest limiting it to one hand per thread. I, personally, avoid threads with more than one hand because it's hard enough for me to gather my thoughts on and understand one hand. The same may be true for others...)

Re: NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

i'm not asking for feedback in both hands. the first hand was the only relevant info on villain. it was the only hand we'd played together, and it happened directly prior the JJ hand. the JJ hand was maybe my 10th hand at the table. i should have been more clear about this in op, but it's not that hard to figure out.

Re: NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

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Shove the turn on the last hand you posted with JJ. And bet more on the turn too. Unless you bet small to induce a raise, which you didn't. Don't fold.

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shoving is bad. call.

Re: NL10 JJ overpair hand
 

I am not so sure if shoving is bad, however, just calling in this situation is worst.

As I see it, your opponent could easily be on a combo draw and calling is giving equal to giving him a free card. I would personally, raise.