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KCrow 11-04-2007 03:09 PM

AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
Villain is unknown. FWIW - I hate my Cbet, I think I should have checked as the board was so dry.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $67.65
BTN: $52.60
SB: $42.95
BB: $49.05
UTG: $50
MP: $56.35

UTG posts $0.50
Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG checks, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($7.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $10</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($27.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $10.50</font>, Hero calls $10.50

latvaniemi 11-04-2007 03:16 PM

Re: AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
Meh shove him on the turn, AK is possible, So is A8 or a set on 8's and 4's. If thats the case i would pay him off. The cbet is fine since your hand is weak. I would've maked it 6,25-6,5.

KCrow 11-04-2007 03:43 PM

Re: AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
[ QUOTE ]
The cbet is fine since your hand is weak.

[/ QUOTE ]

Surely it's not that weak, on this flop I'm either WA/WB. Does checking the flop not get more value from all weaker aces, and pocket pairs and reduce the risk of loosing a big pot to a set.

thizzSantaCruz 11-04-2007 03:48 PM

Re: AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
I think you have to bet the flop. You build a pot with weaker aces, you don't neccesarily blow them out of it. AT or AJ will call here. Also it balances your play because you are going to be betting this flop a lot when you miss.

Edit: forgot to answer your question lol. If opponent is very passive I might think about letting this go, but as is I am happily getting it in on the turn.

Profish2285 11-04-2007 03:49 PM

Re: AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
The c-bet is perfect and there is absolutely no reason to even consider checking this flop. As played, just get it in on the turn.

smokingrobot 11-04-2007 03:56 PM

Re: AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
I had to read this twice to realize its not an omaha hand in the wrong forum. :/

i'd say at worst you're up against a PP in the BB that spiked trips. Smooth call BB could very well have PP here, and with a c/r on the flop?

That said, i'd bet the flop 6-max too.

w/o any info on the villain, i would then check and call down for value.

You're behind trips, ahead of many other possible hands and still have 4 outs although i'd say your more likely to get paid off more if you catch a Q over an A.

Check_The_Nuts 11-04-2007 04:41 PM

Re: AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
whether its good to cbet here or not depends entirely on your cbet frequency in this spot.

I wouldn't have called the min check raise.

I would call turn and call river or push if he doesn't. He's got worse aces often.

runfor1 11-04-2007 04:46 PM

Re: AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
So your raising the flop minraise?

As played, I call turn and call/push river also.

Profish2285 11-04-2007 05:46 PM

Re: AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
Yea Im curious too, if you arent calling his min raise Im guessing youre shoving over it? If you are, then why would you do that, the board is very dry? If you meant you are folding, then that makes no sense because later on you said he has weaker aces often.

Nick Royale 11-04-2007 05:56 PM

Re: AQ - top two can I get away from this.
 
I like it so far. I also like calling the turn and getting it in on any river. If his weak turnbet actually means weakness you're better off calling. If he has a good hand there's just about none card on the river that will shut down our action. And he has a draw about never on this dry board.


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