nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

villain is super bad, like 58/20. i'm pretty sure he doesn't have a pair here. call down, or shove turn? how much different if we don't have the hearts?

No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed)

MP ($411.80)
CO ($560.30)
Button ($596.20)
Hero ($423.30)
BB ($512.60)
UTG ($491.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $22</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $18.

Flop: ($48) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $72</font>, Hero calls $36.

Turn: ($192) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $90</font>

Re: nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

imo the flop decision is tougher

Re: nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

Any more info on his tendencies would be useful.

Re: nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

Even w/ those numbers I think he definitely has some sort of pair. It obv could be anything playing at 58/20. What's his AF? I assume pretty high b/c of that 20, but idk.

As played call it, ship an A, K, or h turn. w/o hearts it depends on your read/feeling. I don't think he's on nothing, it might be 66 or QT, something like that.

Re: nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

how about 3-betting the flop?

Re: nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

was on skype/beam your screen with goofy and he discouraged 3betting the flop. after some reflection, i agree:

3b just folds out worse hands, which is silly when:

-he rarely has a pair
-he will need to six-out me to improve
-he will probably continue to bluff with JT or whatever
-he will almost certainly use the cards that improve me as bluff cards

Re: nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

I'm not sure as to why you think this guy is bluffing this flop so often.

Re: nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

call turn/call river.

Re: nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

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I'm not sure as to why you think this guy is bluffing this flop so often.

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Because thats what people do.

Re: nut no pair hand versus fish!
 

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I'm not sure as to why you think this guy is bluffing this flop so often.

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Because thats what people do.

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Man, people piss me off.