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The B 11-23-2007 12:06 AM

middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $3.45
MP: $10.25
CO: $4.75
BTN: $7.45
SB: $11.70
Hero (BB): $8.40

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.20</font>, CO calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.65) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.35</font>, CO calls $0.35

River: ($1.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $0.10</font>, Hero ???


can i really just fold the river here????

Milky 11-23-2007 12:11 AM

Re: middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
Uh, you're getting like 14:1 here. I don't think I'd ever fold this.

Profish2285 11-23-2007 12:14 AM

Re: middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
Lol @ folding getting those odds. Cant fold here ever.

The B 11-23-2007 12:17 AM

Re: middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
CO flopped a set of 5's, rivered full house.....if the 7h comes off I probably go broke

Hebel 11-23-2007 12:21 AM

Re: middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
bet more on the turn or check, one or the other

Dr_Doctr 11-23-2007 12:29 AM

Re: middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
If you think folding the river is a possible option what have you been doing for 1500+ posts? No real offense intended but seriously... If it's a level n1

The B 11-23-2007 12:48 AM

Re: middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
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If you think folding the river is a possible option what have you been doing for 1500+ posts? No real offense intended but seriously... If it's a level n1

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i would hope nobody w/ an account at 2p2 would fold here (gettin like 15:1) - I was just trying to say it's obvious i'm beat and sux i have to call (no matter what the amount) with the worst of it

Hebel 11-23-2007 12:50 AM

Re: middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($21.80)
MP ($34.40)
Button ($8.75)
Hero ($25.40)
BB ($26.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, Button calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($5.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25.

Final Pot: $5.75

Results
Hero has Ac Qh (high card, ace).
Button has 4c Ad (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins $5.75.

Profish2285 11-23-2007 12:50 AM

Re: middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
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i would hope nobody w/ an account at 2p2 would fold here (gettin like 15:1) - I was just trying to say it's obvious i'm beat and sux i have to call (no matter what the amount) with the worst of it

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Flawed thinking imo. Getting those odds nothing is clear honestly. Im going to go out on a limb and say that youre good often enough to show a profit or at the minimum to break even. Thats why odds make the difference here. If he bets a normal amount its a fold because the odds dictate that you go away. These odds dictate you look him up with pretty much any pair.

The B 11-23-2007 09:07 PM

Re: middle pair w/ huge draw......what to do???
 
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bet more on the turn or check, one or the other

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explain your logic....why bet more on the turn??


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