50NL SB vs BB, turned gutshot straight but facing aggression.
 

Second orbit, no reads.

Seat 1: Hero ($59.20)
Seat 2: UTG ($47.95)
Seat 4: MP ($48.50)
Seat 5: Button ($49.25)
Seat 6: Villain ($177.00)
Villain posts the small blind of

$0.25
Hero posts the big blind of

$0.50
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
MP folds
Button folds
Villain calls $0.25
Hero checks
*** FLOP *** [T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Villain checks
Hero bets $1.00
Villain calls $1.00
*** TURN *** [T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Villain checks
Hero bets $3.00
Villain raises to $12.00
Hero ???

Re: 50NL SB vs BB, turned gutshot straight but facing aggression.
 

I probably go broke here as my straight is disguised. But I don't like it.

Re: 50NL SB vs BB, turned gutshot straight but facing aggression.
 

Yeah it sure smells like KJ but I can't see folding.

Re: 50NL SB vs BB, turned gutshot straight but facing aggression.
 

Problem is that his range is infinite in an unraised pot so you cant ever be sure of where you stand. Still, I dont feel good about folding, nor do I feel good about pushing. Given that you are wa/wb I think control is best here so I call this and call the river. Given that the pot will be $25 ish, it'll be hard for you to lose more than like 60bb here which I feel is reasonable. Obviously if he shoves the river, I think you can make a heroic fold.

Re: 50NL SB vs BB, turned gutshot straight but facing aggression.
 

One hand is beating me, IMHO I think the 9 just made him 2pr and he wants to take it down now.

I push (any reraise is gonna put you all-in at the river anyway)

Re: 50NL SB vs BB, turned gutshot straight but facing aggression.
 

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Problem is that his range is infinite in an unraised pot so you cant ever be sure of where you stand. Still, I dont feel good about folding, nor do I feel good about pushing. Given that you are wa/wb I think control is best here so I call this and call the river. Given that the pot will be $25 ish, it'll be hard for you to lose more than like 60bb here which I feel is reasonable. Obviously if he shoves the river, I think you can make a heroic fold.

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I like that plan, shoving is not that good, you will let your opponent make a good fold or a good call, you want him to make a mistake and shoving wont do that

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I like that plan, shoving is not that good, you will let your opponent make a good fold or a good call, you want him to make a mistake and shoving wont do that

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Good call?...There is only one hand that beats hero now, I do not mind taking it down here... Is the right move to just call here? Problem with made str8's is ANY card that comes afterwards can ONLY hurt us

Re: 50NL SB vs BB, turned gutshot straight but facing aggression.
 

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I like that plan, shoving is not that good, you will let your opponent make a good fold or a good call, you want him to make a mistake and shoving wont do that

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Good call?...There is only one hand that beats hero now, I do not mind taking it down here... Is the right move to just call here? Problem with made str8's is ANY card that comes afterwards can ONLY hurt us

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the fact that he folds when behind toa shove and a call here guarantee a bet from villain since when have position on the river if any blanks fall makes a call good here

Re: 50NL SB vs BB, turned gutshot straight but facing aggression.
 

I shoved since I would be forced to fold the river if:

He shoves
He bets when a spade, a 789TJQ or K comes.

He called and showed KJ for the nuts.

Re: 50NL SB vs BB, turned gutshot straight but facing aggression.
 

You know there are actually two hands that have you beat. J 8 would do it too.