AJ from CO against river donk
 

BB is 19/12/2.84, pretty solid player.
SB is 71/0.6/0.3, worst station ever.

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.05/$0.1
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG (poster) checks, 5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (11BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero ???

I typically call here HU (which is standard), but do I have a hand to overcall (especially given SB's calling station donk and BB's solid style)?

Re: AJ from CO against river donk
 

i call this a 'sanity call'

I also disregard BB...he isnt overcalling anything that beats TPTK IMHO. That being said, you are beat really often here but once in a while you snap a WTF bluff.

Re: AJ from CO against river donk
 

I'll let BB do the sanity call. You are not beating anything a bad player is donking this river with.

Re: AJ from CO against river donk
 

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SB is 71/0.6/0.3, worst station ever.

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Muck it. You beat BB's QJ, but you never beat SB.

Against a "pretty solid player", I might call the flop check-raise and then raise the turn. His flop check-raise makes it look like he has top pair or maybe 99-77. He'll lead with all these hands on the turn and you can raise there instead.

Re: AJ from CO against river donk
 

i never said sanity calls were +EV...but if they prevent hero from megatilt then so be it.

u guys fold this HU?

Re: AJ from CO against river donk
 

No way I fold this HU.

Yeah, I guess the action I take here depends a lot on the opponents.

Re: AJ from CO against river donk
 

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u guys fold this HU?

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Against a player who does check-call, check-call, donk? I usually pay off with TPTK unless I have a pretty good read because you see that play with top pair often enough, even from seemingly passive players.

This hand is different because it takes a special type of seemingly passive villain to wake up with a river donk-bluff into two players after going for 3 bets on the flop.

Re: AJ from CO against river donk
 

97o inc.

Re: AJ from CO against river donk
 

Does anyone else think BB has a club flush? If I were in the BB and flopped a flush draw, I'd c/r because I'm expecting the PFR to c-bet, the station to call, and then me to add the +EV raise.

That said, I don't think TPTK is good often enough to call here.

Re: AJ from CO against river donk
 

I call because I have TPTK, but I probably shouldn't. SB just hit whatever draw he was on and you'll see which one it was thanks to BB's call.