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Kinja 03-03-2007 04:32 PM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
seems to me that there are less players logged in these days but with more game selection in the limit holdem 3/6 to 30/60....

celiboy 03-03-2007 04:45 PM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
Can someone tell me the hourly rake at .5/1 6 max, 1/2 6 max and 1/2 fullring please

From my limited play it looks like about $3 at .5/1 6 max, $7 at 1/2 6 max and about $4 at 1/2 full ring. For those who have a lot of hands at these limits, is this about right?

Also I've noticed traffic has been up nicely the last 3 weeks at 1/2 and 2/4

RGL 03-03-2007 05:30 PM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
Yes, that looks about right. 1/2 full ring may be a little high - more like $2.50 - 3.00 per hour.

celiboy 03-03-2007 05:46 PM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
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Yes, that looks about right. 1/2 full ring may be a little high - more like $2.50 - 3.00 per hour.

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This rate excludes the cracked aces promo right? Once I clear a PokerRoom bonus I'm moving 100% to WPX. 2 tables of 6 max at 1/2 and one of .5/1 is about $17 an hour PLUS the Cracked aces promo. For someone who plays 10,000 hands a month, they should get Aces about 45 times and let's say they get cracked 9 times (1 in 5)...that would be $225 for cracked aces alone.

sonartec 03-03-2007 06:35 PM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
at one HU table for each limit please, preferable two or three.

DarkForceRising 03-03-2007 07:13 PM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
1/2 6 max is about a nickle per hand. 2/4 6 max is around a dime. Not sure about .5/1. This is assuming generally tight conditions, though. When the games get wild, and they often do, I've seen it reach almost twice that.

Whatever the case, it adds up fast. I can't fathom why the bonus whores and Absolute crowd have not jumped ship to WPX. Prohibiton of HUD's is a pathetic excuse. The games can be quite tough but it is usually only a temporary situation.

Schnieds once made a comment about his strategy that is especially applicable to the WPX games. He said that instead of focusing on a players HUD stats, he was more concerned with what the opponent's mood seemed like that particular session.

My own shortcomings as a player illustrate this. Although my stats might appear to be typically taggish, sometimes I get angry and tilt. Sometimes I get frustrated with a dry run of cards and start mixing it up in the wrong situations. Sometimes I look for excuses to put a player (that I know has me crushed) on a hand I can beat and I call down. Sometimes I am playing well and things are going smoothly and I decide to kick back, relax and let up on profitable stealing and isolation opportunities.

And sometimes I like to drink a few beers while playing 4 lightning-fast tables with a bunch of manics constantly check-raising me. (OK, most of the time. I am a recreational player.)

From what I have observed, it seems as though many of the other regulars at WPX share the same traits. For the player that has just a smidgen of extra focus, I don't see any reason why that player wouldn't find this site to be anything less than what Alobar once described as a 'juicy money orgy'.

Now for the real shocker. Due to 100% rakeback and the fact that actual fish really do play there, many of the players doing the stupid donkey bullsh*t I just descibed are still finishing up the week with a profit.

RGL 03-03-2007 07:50 PM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
Dark,

Very nice post. Exactly my experience with reading the mood vs. the stats. It's a very aggressive site, and mood swings get tripped fairly often.

And most fish seem to play week after week because the rakeback gives them some lifeline each Monday.

One guy I recommended to the site is a moderate to fishy short-handed player at low limits. He is used to re-bankrolling a site with about $200 per week. He loves WPEX because the extra rakeback gives him extra dough in his bankroll to play more, hence building an even larger bankroll after his deposit.

He actually feels like a winner, even though he's losing at the same rate per week. He's getting more play per dollar and at the same time losing more money to other players per dollar deposited. Talk about a Win-Win!

If this site ever gets a player base growing, it could become a real fish trap with a fish never quite going broke. "I deposited $200 this week, same as last week, but now I've got $270 to start. And maybe I'll just play off the bonus and see what happens before depositing."

In any case, the site puts more money into the poker economy per dollar invested than any other by long run. No other site is even close to being in the race.

Benjamin 03-04-2007 12:03 AM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
How well does the MGR figure on Game Notes tab of PT match up with WSEX rakeback? Anyone know off-hand?

DitMeMay 03-04-2007 12:31 AM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
it matches exactly.

Guruman 03-04-2007 01:14 AM

Re: WSEx: Official Monthly Thread: March. (#7 of 7.)
 
the quality of the 3/6 limit holdem games seems to be getting better. still mostly tags, but they're playing worse on the turn and river [or maybe I'm just playing better [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]]

still not a lot of games going on yet though. I agree that the concept of the rakeback fish trap has yet to be fully exploited.

a couple of requests:

1)tripledraw please. tripledraw is a huge action game that would appeal to sportsbettors and is all kinds of fun to play.

2)pull the client down from auto high-priority in the taskmanager. this actually seems to be slowing the whole thing down.

3)make the FPPs worth something. I still think that using them for sportsbetting discounts is the best avenue. I don't like playing big poker MTTs, and that doesnt help the sportsbook [profit center] out anyway. Just let me use some FPPs to move a line a little or to reduce the juice and I'm super happy.

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games have been getting better. rakeback is always on time and documented. Just get me some more active deposit options for new players and we've got a real party.


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