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jordiepop 09-02-2007 04:55 AM

qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
villian seems pretty solid. running about 18/16. havent seen anything out of line. is this a c/f ..b/f?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $861.30
UTG+1: $557.50
CO: $442
Button: $1394.50
Hero: $524.35
BB: $542.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $19</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $84</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($191, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero ?

Burdzthewurd 09-02-2007 05:04 AM

Re: qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
Bet $120 and fold to a shove? That's a pretty strange line he has going preflop, so I think you can be sure you're beat if he raises here. Then again, kind of looks like AK to me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

AAismyfriend 09-02-2007 05:14 AM

Re: qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
Yea seems like an easy bet/fold situation. 99/TT are pretty likely hands too given how preflop played out, so if he calls/raises this flop you're toast.

jj12 09-02-2007 08:01 AM

Re: qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
how about c/f. he will probably shove in 75%+ of the time.

intel 09-02-2007 08:04 AM

Re: qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
ya b/f / c/f is fine against tag

ChrisV 09-02-2007 12:00 PM

Re: qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
c/f looks good to me. I'm struggling to come up with something he plays like that pf that isn't good on this flop. JJ is about all I got. If he has that, he might be scared to bet in any case, whereas if he feels his hand is good (eg AK) he won't want to be dishing out free cards. You might c/f to JJ occasionally but you'll lose more betting out into sets and AK imo.

tozzy 09-02-2007 12:09 PM

Re: qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
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so if he calls/raises this flop you're toast.

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why bet then?

FireStorm 09-02-2007 12:32 PM

Re: qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
C/F here. Your huge preflop three bet means that this guy's range is now down to AK/AA/KK/QQ. QQ is unlikely and everything else is shoving if we lead out. Why $84 pre anyway, $70 seems better.

w33ktight 09-02-2007 02:10 PM

Re: qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
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Why $84 pre anyway, $70 seems better.

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Because the CO called. $70 is not a good raise here.

I would just check fold the flop. Lot's of people say you should always cbet in rr pots hu but if you check with AA and stuff sometimes too you can cf here with QQ and not waste your money on such a terrible flop.

BobboFitos 09-02-2007 02:12 PM

Re: qq on a kt9 flop against tag
 
actually, this is a standard bet call. who knew!


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