1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

New to the table, so no reads.

PokerStars 1.00/2.00 Limit Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Preflop: Hero is BU with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB checks\.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">MP2 bets</font>, Hero folds\.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB.

Flop+Turn bet (after hitting 2pair) should be standard.
After the turn c/r, my line was to call down unless a 4th club or a T-K pops up.
Correct line or too weak too strong for that level?

Re: 1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

I wouldn't bet the flop. Anyone with deacent club will call you. Also I think that we don't have enough odds to call the turn. You have shown agression on the flop and are leading the turn and get still c/r. After the fourth club on the river, I don't see any other option than fold. Pot is not big enough to justify the call.

Re: 1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

*grunch*
I would play flop and turn the same. At flop u have top pair at unraised pot! have to bet when no whan bet beforu you esspecialy.

River is hard for me to play. U have 8,25:1 so you have to win only 10% of this types of river to break even. Question is can we call witn no reads, but probably with 2pair i will call this.

Here is probably good Ed's tips to dont fold decant hands at big pot if u need call only one bet.

Re: 1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

Grunch

I play the hand exactly the same without any reads...

Re: 1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

played fine imo.

no way you check top pair on the button and give free cards to all the straight and one card flush draws. thats dumb.

and no way you fold the turn when you could easily have the best hand.

Re: 1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

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I wouldn't bet the flop. Anyone with deacent club will call you.

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wtf? so you never bet if you think people call you? wow you must never bet at all.

heres a hint - to make money at poker, we need to bet, and our opponents have to call.

Re: 1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

I would bet the flop too, I ahve top pair and no one has bet before.
The turn looks good, definitely a bet. I don't want to give a free card to a draw. Is this a real c/r or is villain just going wild? Probably just feared the flush as well and thinks his hand is good. Therefore I would call and am not suprised if he doesn't have a flush.

Re: 1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

Do u think guys call river is medium/big mistake or marginal mistake instead we get info about villian's play?

Re: 1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

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Do u think guys call river is medium/big mistake or marginal mistake instead we get info about villian's play?

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I don't like calling the river because we only beat say, AxT[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or a bluff, and we don't have enough of a read to know that this guy is willing to put in 3BB on a bluff attempt or that he thinks top pair is the nuts. If you are calling for information such as did he slowplay a (small?) flopped flush or can he semi-bluff OOP or did he wait to raise a strong, but non-flush hand on the turn on a scary board or something along those lines, I can see it being useful and don't mind it. Especially because we may get chances to isolate this guy in the future.

Re: 1/2 FR on stars, A3s hitting 2pair on 3suited at turn, fold river
 

Uh, we don't beat AxT[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].