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Diacon 09-08-2007 04:56 PM

Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
Yourdaddylovesyou 19/17, my 24/20. He play agro vs me

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $2,693.60
BB: $300.00
UTG: $932.50
CO: $325.85
BTN: $933.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $21.00</font>, CO calls $21.00, <font color="red">BTN raises to $120.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $288.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $933.60</font>, Hero ???

Hattifnatt 09-08-2007 04:58 PM

Re: Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
insta

spino1i 09-08-2007 04:58 PM

Re: Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
Easy Easy call. You already have 30% of the money in with this hand. I'd hate to fold here.

ipokeder 09-08-2007 05:23 PM

Re: Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
pretty sure you can't call here. just ran a simulation with AKs vs AKs,KK+ and you're -$45~ ev making this call against that range, and vs KK+ you're -$240 ev. given that he won't be reshoving AKs every single time, the true equity is probably somewhere in between the two, making this a fold.

even if you put QQ into his range (i.e., the widest possible range), it becomes +$70 ev, so i'm pretty sure you gotta fold here.

FireStorm 09-08-2007 05:36 PM

Re: Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
LOL @ the people saying instacall. YOU GOT DA ACE KING GET IT IN BABEEEEEEEE!!!!!

This is fairly close but you can fold here. His range is comprised almost entirely of AA/KK.

Erik W 09-08-2007 05:50 PM

Re: Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
insta call
u have equity against AK,KK+ and u can easily be exploited if you lay down hands like this pre

if you do not have a very good reason this is a call

JEFF or DAD 09-08-2007 05:52 PM

Re: Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
theres no way i would 4bet w/the intention of folding

AP81 09-08-2007 05:53 PM

Re: Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
pretty sure you can't call here. just ran a simulation with AKs vs AKs,KK+ and you're -$45~ ev making this call against that range, and vs KK+ you're -$240 ev. given that he won't be reshoving AKs every single time, the true equity is probably somewhere in between the two, making this a fold.

even if you put QQ into his range (i.e., the widest possible range), it becomes +$70 ev, so i'm pretty sure you gotta fold here.

[/ QUOTE ]

He definitely isn't folding QQ every time, and probably not AK either. I think this is a call for sure.

Hattifnatt 09-08-2007 05:56 PM

Re: Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
UTGs stats is kindof relevant as well. Excluding AKo from his range totally is a mistake. I also agree that 4-betting is not a good idea if it is with intention of folding to a push, better to just fold to the 3-bet then (or maybe even call).

AP81 09-08-2007 06:09 PM

Re: Party NL 600 allin w/ AKs ?
 
Also fwiw villain is more like 22/19 over my datamines for the past three months, which has a sample size of over 30k hands.


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