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adanthar 09-15-2007 06:11 PM

Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
edit: link edited out as it now goes to the mod forum

Cliff notes: Looks like AP has a compromised 'superuser' account that can read everyone's hole cards. gg.

edit again: thread stickied, super ultra tldr cliff note hand added

Stage #896976330 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $4500 - 2007-09-13 01:43:49 (ET)
Table: 14 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($765740 in chips)
Seat 8 - CRAZYMARCO ($214260 in chips)
POTRIPPER - Ante $450
CRAZYMARCO - Ante $450
POTRIPPER - Posts small blind $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Posts big blind $4500
*** POCKET CARDS ***
POTRIPPER - Calls $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Kd Kh]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $9000
CRAZYMARCO - Calls $9000
*** TURN *** [4h Kd Kh] [7s]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $13500
CRAZYMARCO - All-In(Raise) $200310 to $200310
POTRIPPER - Calls $186810
*** RIVER *** [4h Kd Kh 7s] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
POTRIPPER - Shows [10c 9c] (One pair, kings)
CRAZYMARCO - Shows [9h 2h] (One pair, kings)
POTRIPPER Collects $428520 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($428520)
Board [4h Kd Kh 7s 5s]
Seat 3: POTRIPPER (dealer) (small blind) won Total ($428520) HI:($428520) with One pair, kings(ten kicker) [10c 9c - B:Kh,B:Kd,P:10c,P:9c,B:7s]
Seat 8: CRAZYMARCO (big blind) HI:lost with One pair, kings [9h 2h - B:Kh,B:Kd,P:9h,B:7s,B:5s]

Xanta 09-15-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 

We cannot proceed.

BowToYourSensei 09-15-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
details or ban!

EDIT: not me

keikiwai 09-15-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
i thought everyone pressed up up down down a b start when logging in to Absolute?

adanthar 09-15-2007 06:15 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
details or ban!

EDIT: not me

[/ QUOTE ]


STAGE #753375692: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $30 - 2007-09-04 17:44:57 (ET)
Table: ALHAMBRA (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - DOUBLEDRAG ($22373 in chips)
Seat 6 - THE GRINDER ($11554 in chips)
Seat 2 - DTON21 ($1760 in chips)
Seat 3 - hero ($3055 in chips)
THE GRINDER - Posts small blind $15
DTON21 - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [5d 10d]
hero - Raises $90 to $90
DOUBLEDRAG - Raises $240 to $240
THE GRINDER - Folds
DTON21 - Folds
hero - Calls $150
*** FLOP *** [6d Qc 8d]
hero - Checks
DOUBLEDRAG - Bets $150
hero - All-In(Raise) $2815 to $2815
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $2665
*** TURN *** [6d Qc 8d] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [6d Qc 8d 2s] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hero - Shows [5d 10d] (One pair, fives)
DOUBLEDRAG - Shows [Kd 3c] (king high)
Collects $6153 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($6155) | Rake ($2)
Board [6d Qc 8d 2s 5c]
Seat 2: DTON21 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: hero won Total ($6153) All-In HI:($6153) with One pair, fives [5d 10d - P:5d,B:5c,B:Qc,P:10d,B:8d]
Seat 5: DOUBLEDRAG (dealer) HI:lost with king high [Kd 3c - P:Kd,B:Qc,B:8d,B:6d,B:5c]
Seat 6: THE GRINDER (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS

---

Hand 2: GRAYCAT is BB in this hand. Coldcaps preflop and then check/folds flop.

Absolute Poker 200/400 Hold'em (4 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5, 5.
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB caps, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 2, 2, 5 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls.

these two are apparently the same person fyi

RiverFenix 09-15-2007 06:18 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
wait this could be really important. can you move the thread back here? whats the issue.

imozyslow 09-15-2007 06:20 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Cliff notes: Looks like AP has a compromised 'superuser' account that can read everyone's hole cards. gg.

[/ QUOTE ]

http://gallery.digitaldeviation.com/..._ruserious.JPG

toss 09-15-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
I KNEW IT. THE RUMORS ARE TRUE

RiverFenix 09-15-2007 06:23 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
i thought everyone pressed up up down down a b start when logging in to Absolute?

[/ QUOTE ]

up up down down left right left right b a start is the correct code for absolute

adanthar 09-15-2007 06:24 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
also fyi, this is (obv) an HSNL/limit issue at this time and no one playing below 100/200 needs to worry.

that said, [censored] AP, making an account like that is unbelievably stupid.

imozyslow 09-15-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
also fyi, this is (obv) an HSNL/limit issue at this time and no one playing below 100/200 needs to worry.

that said, [censored] AP, making an account like that is unbelievably stupid.

[/ QUOTE ]

wow you are serious.

could you elaborate a little bit on how this was discovered and WHY a site would create a such account in the first place. also, who would have access to this account?

thanks,

imozyslow

keikiwai 09-15-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i thought everyone pressed up up down down a b start when logging in to Absolute?

[/ QUOTE ]

up up down down left right left right b a start is the correct code for absolute

[/ QUOTE ]

but it's select start if you're colluding as well, right?

doubLe a tom 09-15-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/stoned.jpg

adanthar 09-15-2007 06:33 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
also fyi, this is (obv) an HSNL/limit issue at this time and no one playing below 100/200 needs to worry.

that said, [censored] AP, making an account like that is unbelievably stupid.

[/ QUOTE ]

wow you are serious.

could you elaborate a little bit on how this was discovered and WHY a site would create a such account in the first place. also, who would have access to this account?

thanks,

imozyslow

[/ QUOTE ]

the thread will likely come back, I'm not retyping it all since it's a waste of effort right now.

(also obv) do not play with greycat, supercard, (possibly) steamroller, or on absolute in general until this is fixed.

Madman Madman 09-15-2007 06:33 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
you guys have been calling me and my multiple account a paranoid idiot for years but look who was right. you all owe me an apology.

keikiwai 09-15-2007 06:33 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2986/cheatat8.jpg

BowToYourSensei 09-15-2007 06:36 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
lol @ tabs

GSykes 09-15-2007 06:37 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2986/cheatat8.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

god i hope the beatiality tab is a joke

sdfsdf 09-15-2007 06:38 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
wow. this is terrible for online poker.

J-P 09-15-2007 06:38 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2986/cheatat8.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Beastialities, hawwwwwttttttttt

greg nice 09-15-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
obv intentional

doubLe a tom 09-15-2007 06:42 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
also fyi, this is (obv) an HSNL/limit issue at this time and no one playing below 100/200 needs to worry.

that said, [censored] AP, making an account like that is unbelievably stupid.

[/ QUOTE ]

wow you are serious.

could you elaborate a little bit on how this was discovered and WHY a site would create a such account in the first place. also, who would have access to this account?

thanks,

imozyslow

[/ QUOTE ]

the thread will likely come back, I'm not retyping it all since it's a waste of effort right now.

(also obv) do not play with greycat, supercard, (possibly) steamroller, or on absolute in general until this is fixed.

[/ QUOTE ]

if hes being accused of this at these limits but is actually legit, how sick would he be?

Mrage 09-15-2007 06:43 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
wow. this is terrible for online poker.

[/ QUOTE ]I dunno I think bestiality and poker go pretty well hand-in-hand

AntonHeat 09-15-2007 06:44 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
So they have a account that can see everyone's hole cards?? rigged!>

Robin Foolz 09-15-2007 06:45 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
what are those hand histories supposed to show?

N 82 50 24 09-15-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
wow

swope 09-15-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
images edited out for table breaking

adanthar 09-15-2007 06:49 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
hey look what I found at pocket5s:

OK, SOMEONE!! Explain this call please.
by Stuman123 on 9/13/2007 00:45



HOW does he make this call?!?!?!?! Heads up in the 1K on AP....This makes no sense.




Stage #896976330 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $4500 - 2007-09-13 01:43:49 (ET)
Table: 14 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($765740 in chips)
Seat 8 - CRAZYMARCO ($214260 in chips)
POTRIPPER - Ante $450
CRAZYMARCO - Ante $450
POTRIPPER - Posts small blind $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Posts big blind $4500
*** POCKET CARDS ***
POTRIPPER - Calls $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Kd Kh]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $9000
CRAZYMARCO - Calls $9000
*** TURN *** [4h Kd Kh] [7s]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $13500
CRAZYMARCO - All-In(Raise) $200310 to $200310
POTRIPPER - Calls $186810
*** RIVER *** [4h Kd Kh 7s] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
POTRIPPER - Shows [10c 9c] (One pair, kings)
CRAZYMARCO - Shows [9h 2h] (One pair, kings)
POTRIPPER Collects $428520 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($428520)
Board [4h Kd Kh 7s 5s]
Seat 3: POTRIPPER (dealer) (small blind) won Total ($428520) HI:($428520) with One pair, kings(ten kicker) [10c 9c - B:Kh,B:Kd,P:10c,P:9c,B:7s]
Seat 8: CRAZYMARCO (big blind) HI:lost with One pair, kings [9h 2h - B:Kh,B:Kd,P:9h,B:7s,B:5s]

this name is not mentioned but I'm going to go ahead and guess it's related somehow

adanthar 09-15-2007 06:54 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
potripper's pokerdb:



Date Buyin Tournament/Event Place Entrants Winnings
9/12/2007 $1,000 NL Hold'em 1 98 $30,000.00
7/5/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 234 234 —
7/5/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 140 148 —

yellowsub 09-15-2007 06:55 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
anyone want some AP$?
pm me

doubLe a tom 09-15-2007 06:56 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ ] easily read hand history

bknollenberg 09-15-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
this [censored] is [censored] up. i mean, i don't understand a lot of it because this thread really doesn't say much, but so far i assume that..

a) absolute made an account that can see the hole cards of the other player (but theoretically the cards to come on the turn and river?)
b) lol

kemystery 09-15-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
wtf is going on?

BowToYourSensei 09-15-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
hey look what I found at pocket5s:

OK, SOMEONE!! Explain this call please.
by Stuman123 on 9/13/2007 00:45



HOW does he make this call?!?!?!?! Heads up in the 1K on AP....This makes no sense.




Stage #896976330 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $4500 - 2007-09-13 01:43:49 (ET)
Table: 14 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($765740 in chips)
Seat 8 - CRAZYMARCO ($214260 in chips)
POTRIPPER - Ante $450
CRAZYMARCO - Ante $450
POTRIPPER - Posts small blind $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Posts big blind $4500
*** POCKET CARDS ***
POTRIPPER - Calls $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Kd Kh]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $9000
CRAZYMARCO - Calls $9000
*** TURN *** [4h Kd Kh] [7s]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $13500
CRAZYMARCO - All-In(Raise) $200310 to $200310
POTRIPPER - Calls $186810
*** RIVER *** [4h Kd Kh 7s] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
POTRIPPER - Shows [10c 9c] (One pair, kings)
CRAZYMARCO - Shows [9h 2h] (One pair, kings)
POTRIPPER Collects $428520 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($428520)
Board [4h Kd Kh 7s 5s]
Seat 3: POTRIPPER (dealer) (small blind) won Total ($428520) HI:($428520) with One pair, kings(ten kicker) [10c 9c - B:Kh,B:Kd,P:10c,P:9c,B:7s]
Seat 8: CRAZYMARCO (big blind) HI:lost with One pair, kings [9h 2h - B:Kh,B:Kd,P:9h,B:7s,B:5s]

this name is not mentioned but I'm going to go ahead and guess it's related somehow

[/ QUOTE ]

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

adanthar 09-15-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
this [censored] is [censored] up. i mean, i don't understand a lot of it because this thread really doesn't say much, but so far i assume that..

a) absolute made an account that can see the hole cards of the other player (but not the cards to come on the turn and river)
b) lol

[/ QUOTE ]

fyp

ap's RNG: safe. ap's ability not to make superuser accounts that see everyone's hole cards: compromised

toss 09-15-2007 07:02 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this [censored] is [censored] up. i mean, i don't understand a lot of it because this thread really doesn't say much, but so far i assume that..

a) absolute made an account that can see the hole cards of the other player (but not the cards to come on the turn and river)
b) lol

[/ QUOTE ]

fyp

ap's RNG: safe. ap's ability not to make superuser accounts that see everyone's hole cards: compromised

[/ QUOTE ]

If all this is actually true, do you see Absolute taking any steps to reimburse the victims?

A better question is do you think Absolute will ever admit to all this?

cowpig 09-15-2007 07:02 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
my heads hurts

bknollenberg 09-15-2007 07:03 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this [censored] is [censored] up. i mean, i don't understand a lot of it because this thread really doesn't say much, but so far i assume that..

a) absolute made an account that can see the hole cards of the other player (but not the cards to come on the turn and river)
b) lol

[/ QUOTE ]

fyp

ap's RNG: safe. ap's ability not to make superuser accounts that see everyone's hole cards: compromised

[/ QUOTE ]
i just don't get one thing. does this mean someone FROM absolute is using this account for their own benefit? or to make money for the site? or what? i don't get who is accessing the accounts / whether this implies that anyone could somehow make a "superuser account" (this [censored] is getting way too james bond).

adanthar 09-15-2007 07:05 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this [censored] is [censored] up. i mean, i don't understand a lot of it because this thread really doesn't say much, but so far i assume that..

a) absolute made an account that can see the hole cards of the other player (but not the cards to come on the turn and river)
b) lol

[/ QUOTE ]

fyp

ap's RNG: safe. ap's ability not to make superuser accounts that see everyone's hole cards: compromised

[/ QUOTE ]

If all this is actually true, do you see Absolute taking any steps to reimburse the victims?

A better question is do you think Absolute will ever admit to all this?

[/ QUOTE ]

How much faith do you have in AP's brilliant, industry leading customer service?

doubLe a tom 09-15-2007 07:05 PM

Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)
 
[ QUOTE ]
my heads hurts

[/ QUOTE ]

you tried to read that hand history too?


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