Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

Villain is 68/8/3, but only 22wtsd over 650 hands. He calls with lots of hopeless draws on flop and turn, but does not really call many big riverbets. He is def cabable of having KQo'ish type hands here. He loves minraising in position, draws, air, whatever. Once he calls my turn threebet he either have a weird Ace a ten or some sort of draw. What is the optimal riverline? CR? Bet, how much?

Know my threebet is kind of small, but his range for minraising contains so much trash and he isn't that much of a station postflop so I was scared of losing him.

Effective stacks on river is 600'ish.

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $902.50
BB: $367.50
UTG: $526.20
CO: $454
BTN: $817.30

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $16, Hero calls $14, BB folds

Flop: ($52) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($52) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $40</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $192</font>, BTN calls $112

River: ($436) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero?

Re: Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

all of it

Re: Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

id bet 250 because ull get called by aces for such a small amount (u said he wasnt stationy so i doubt hell pay off much more), flushes will push over u almost always and if has some weird gutter that missed or decides to turn a pair into a bluff, u give him the chance.

Re: Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

I like raising more on the turn 230 - 250 to leave around a psb left of the river.

As played, stick it in. He might be dumb enough to call with a flush and he'll always call with better. He won't call with enough random 2pair hands to make a small bet worthwhile.

Re: Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

i like ~$350ish...give him a chance to call, and if he hit the spade, he's pushing over you every single time anyway.

Re: Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

300

Re: Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

I 3-bet more on the turn to make shoving the river easier. I don't think his calling/pushing range is much different if you make it like 250.

As played I probably make it 340ish.

Re: Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

all-in

Re: Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

Yeah. It was a mistake to not make a bigger turn threebet.

Re: Party 400NL, Rivered quads vs weird fish.
 

of course