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fsoyars 11-26-2007 07:17 PM

Late in Tilt 22r: 77 pf spot
 
No reads on the OR. I've been tight.

Edit: 18 pay and I think there are like around 24 left. I'm probably somewhere around 18th or a bit lower sorry can't remember exactly.

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 500/1,000 Blinds, 125 Ante, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG+1: 6,949
MP1: 73,931
Hero (MP2): 23,082
CO: 75,664
BTN: 24,574
SB: 37,830
BB: 17,971
UTG: 46,601

Pre-Flop: (2,500) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to 3,000</font>, <font color="red">Hero?

ShowUthExit 11-26-2007 07:23 PM

Re: Late in Tilt 22r: 77 pf spot
 
if its the bubble i think shoving&gt;folding&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;call ing, with shoving or folding being pretty close

I dont like a smaller 3bet... You'd be putting in almost half your stack ando if you dont fold everyone out you're in too awkward of a spot. But the number of people left and where the payouts start is pretty important I think

omg im l337 11-26-2007 07:37 PM

Re: Late in Tilt 22r: 77 pf spot
 
If this is near a bubble I push. With no reads this is tough, I think that if you have no reads, at best you are at best a coin flip. There is 5500 in the pot.... I probably push.

fsoyars 11-27-2007 12:52 AM

Re: Late in Tilt 22r: 77 pf spot
 
Yeah I don't think I'd ever do anything here but push or fold. Anyone got an idea of what a good pushing range is here?

Rocco 11-27-2007 11:44 AM

Re: Late in Tilt 22r: 77 pf spot
 
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Yeah I don't think I'd ever do anything here but push or fold. Anyone got an idea of what a good pushing range is here?

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With 4 players left to act my pushing range would be like AQ+/TT+. Hmmm... 99 is probably in my range too.

BarryLyndon 11-27-2007 11:59 AM

Re: Late in Tilt 22r: 77 pf spot
 
I think any 1010+ calls you here and AQs; AK. Your raise is going to look like a steal, so that assumption is fair. Maybe AQ folds. Maybe not - his stack is big.

We also know that OR's range is probably 55+; A10s; AJ+; KQs+; maybe like 109s, J10s. I think he calls you 40% the time. And, like ~10% of the time, you're getting called by someone else. So, ~50% of the time, it's folded. You're never getting called by a worse pair.

So, from the looks of it, it's probably borderline EV at best. With your BB, find better resteal situation. Also, you don't know if 73K is opening a lot, and you can still open for 2.3xBB or so in a few spots profitably.

Barry

wylies 11-27-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Late in Tilt 22r: 77 pf spot
 
Fold &gt; Push &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Call

Your not deep enough to call here and any raise other than AI puts you in a tough spot on the flop. Push or fold are the only two options. Without any reads on the raiser it looks like a fold.

I agree with Rocco's pushing range.

BarryLyndon 11-27-2007 01:40 PM

Re: Late in Tilt 22r: 77 pf spot
 
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Yeah I don't think I'd ever do anything here but push or fold. Anyone got an idea of what a good pushing range is here?

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With 4 players left to act my pushing range would be like AQ+/TT+. Hmmm... 99 is probably in my range too.

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99 = 22 here, no? I mean, what are you saying - that 88 from any player may come for the ride. Including OR? Don't you need more than that to justify 99?

Also, why AQ? Just curious.


Barry


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