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Your Mom 11-01-2007 01:23 PM

Where do you want to finish?
 
My #1 goal in life is to acquire freedom.....I want the end of my life to be 100% freedom where the only responsibilities are ones that I want to take on. Obviously, this will be impossible but if I get close, I'll be very happy. I'll be able to not worry about money, not worry about work, live where I want to live, and do what I want to do. Where do you want to finish life? What's your end goal?

JaBlue 11-01-2007 01:39 PM

Re: Where do you want to finish?
 
This may seem like a nitpick but I don't think it is. You're all ready free. Money has nothing to do with freedom. Viewing the situation as "money enables freedom" is pitiful.
You can do whatever you want all the time. You freely choose to make money because you want to eat, provide for your family, etc. I think what you mean to say is that you want to "finish" (what does that mean?) with a life with no obligations, where everything is all ready taken care of. It seems to me that someone who looks at life as a continual struggle for wealth until they no longer have to worry about accumulating the money to buy the stuff they want is missing out big time in the here and now.
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I'm gonna go for something simpler. My ultimate goal is to be happy. I don't care how it happens.

MissT74 11-01-2007 01:45 PM

Re: Where do you want to finish?
 
I want to finish happy and content. EOM.

T

Henry17 11-01-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Where do you want to finish?
 
[ QUOTE ]
My #1 goal in life is to acquire freedom.....I want the end of my life to be 100% freedom where the only responsibilities are ones that I want to take on. Obviously, this will be impossible but if I get close, I'll be very happy. I'll be able to not worry about money, not worry about work, live where I want to live, and do what I want to do. Where do you want to finish life? What's your end goal?

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Same goal only I also felt I needed to accomplish it before I was too old to enjoy it. I think I've achieved it.

MissT74 11-01-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Where do you want to finish?
 
Didn't you say you were 26?

T

Henry17 11-01-2007 01:47 PM

Re: Where do you want to finish?
 
34 but I was mostly done at 28.

MissT74 11-01-2007 01:48 PM

Re: Where do you want to finish?
 
Ahhh, thought you were 26 for some reason. So 34 and already achieved freedom. Very interesting.

T

potato 11-01-2007 02:36 PM

Re: Where do you want to finish?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This may seem like a nitpick but I don't think it is. You're all ready free. Money has nothing to do with freedom. Viewing the situation as "money enables freedom" is pitiful.
You can do whatever you want all the time. You freely choose to make money because you want to eat, provide for your family, etc. I think what you mean to say is that you want to "finish" (what does that mean?) with a life with no obligations, where everything is all ready taken care of. It seems to me that someone who looks at life as a continual struggle for wealth until they no longer have to worry about accumulating the money to buy the stuff they want is missing out big time in the here and now.


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That's cute.

What if you want to go see Rome and you have $15 in your bank account?

What if you are really hungry and you don't have any money at all? I'm sure someone will give you something to eat, but you're sure not going to be free to choose what you want to eat.

You are confusing freedom and happiness.

JaBlue 11-01-2007 02:50 PM

Re: Where do you want to finish?
 
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What if you want to go see Rome and you have $15 in your bank account?

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You can freely try. Or you can freely choose to make more money and then try.

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What if you are really hungry and you don't have any money at all? I'm sure someone will give you something to eat, but you're sure not going to be free to choose what you want to eat.

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You freely choose whether to eat what someone gives you, you can always go for more, you can try to steal food if you want, etc.

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Obviously there are certain limitations, including circumstance (examples you listed) and ability (ie I cannot fly) but that doesn't mean you aren't free; you are always free to choose your action. This is what freedom is.

Henry17 11-01-2007 02:51 PM

Re: Where do you want to finish?
 
That isn't a meaningful definition of freedom.


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