FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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UTG: $279.05
Hero (BTN): $433.40
SB: $221.75
BB: $195

Pre-Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, SB calls $7, BB calls $6

Flop: ($32) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20, SB calls $20, BB folds

Turn: ($92) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $60</font>, Hero calls $60, SB folds

River: ($212) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $100</font>, Hero ..?


UTG is "Unkle_Rukus", 19/15/3.0/1257 . Probably one of you.

The blinds are donkeys.


Hero calls or raises? He has $90 left.

Re: FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

Call

Re: FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

call

why no turn raise?

Re: FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

euh super easy shove why can't he valuebet worse? he's never folding a made hand when he gets like 90:300


Board: Tc 2h 9d Qc 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.429% 46.43% 00.00% 13 0.00 { QQ+, TT-99, AQs, KJs }
Hand 1: 53.571% 53.57% 00.00% 15 0.00 { 2c2s }

AQs = discounting AQ by a lot
and this is pretty much the absolute worst case scenario for us
KJs has to be discounted bc of preflop (and he might have QTs too if he plays KJs) and sets have to be discounted because imho he valuebets them harder

Re: FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

Wow.. I understand the flop, but the turn? You underrepped your hand so I would at least call. Dunno what he calls with that we're beating if we raise, maybe QJ, maybe T9, but since we think we're good enough to call, we should probably shove.

Re: FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

everything that bets the river that isn't a complete bluff is calling a shove wth

he will get 90:500 odds ..................

Re: FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

Yeah that's what I started to think at the end of my post.

Re: FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

Not raising flop or turn seems pretty bad. Every straight draw draws for free.

Re: FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

On the turn there's 12 river cards you really don't want to see, so you should probably raise it. Shove river as played and stack T9/AA or whatever, he'll never fold a good hand for less than a minraise more after betting 1/2 pot.

Re: FT200 bottom set is not the nuts
 

if you're gonna call the river you might as well shove. Turn raise is pretty automatic for me